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I use Jetbrains products for everything at work. I don't know what's going to happen if I ever have to work at an Eclipse shop. Might have to turn it down, hone

I use Jetbrains products for everything at work. I don't know what's going to happen if I ever have to work at an Eclipse shop. Might have to turn it down, honestly.

dehrmann 7y ago
The last place I was at was an IntelliJ shop, but I don't think there was anything in the project layout or committed files that was specific to IntelliJ, so if they're good about not committing project files, it should be the same for Eclipse. You'd just be on your own, though.
rsynnott 7y ago
There are Eclipse shops? In 2019? Why? I mean, even IntelliJ Community (which, despite the implications of the name, can be used for everything) is a fair bit better.
- enitihas 7y ago
  Any place which has internal tooling tightly coupled to Eclipse, and isn't willing to or has not gotten to develop the same for IntelliJ.
- bitL 7y ago
  Speed in large projects. IntelliJ is super slow once you have huge source/text files. E.g. WebStorm is unusable for debugging as one step over takes ~10s on a 128GB RAM machine in such cases.
  - simion314 7y ago
    I am mentioning this in the off chance you did not tried it, exclude the node_modules/vendors/build folders or other third party code that is not part of your project you are editing.
    - bitL 7y ago
      It happens also in own projects that are just huge, without any 3rd party libs.
      - simion314 7y ago
        I am not experiencing this issue and I have a large project PHP and JS plus the plugins for jquery and angular , all linting on. After the project loads I don't feel any lag, I run an i5 6th gen CPU , 4cores. I might have tweaked some VM options years back (my configs and styles are at least 5-6 years old so I do not remember). Also if you transpile all your js into a big minified file, exclude that too, right click on it and there must be an option as mark as plain text.
  - nskvortsov 7y ago
    this sounds like a good candidate for issue report. Would you mind collecting performance snapshot and sending it to JetBrains?
- sam_lowry_ 7y ago
  Because of Eclipse RCP or EMF legacy?
aedron 7y ago
I've been the sole Eclipse developer in a number of places where everyone used IntelliJ. At least a couple of the places had switched from Eclipse after having been worn down by that one incessant IntelliJ guy. A few developers discreetly confided that they would rather have stayed on Eclipse, and some new people followed my lead. None of the places were 'IntelliJ shops' though, any more than I know of any 'Eclipse shops'. It would be rather poor form to hard tie your projects to an IDE, so it was always fairly doable to run with your IDE of choice.
DrScientist 7y ago
I would turn such a role down - not because they use Eclipse, but they are a single IDE 'shop'. The development process should not be tied to the IDE!

I use Jetbrains products for everything at work. I don't know what's going to happen if I ever have to work at an Eclipse shop. Might have to turn it down, honestly.

dehrmann 7y ago

The last place I was at was an IntelliJ shop, but I don't think there was anything in the project layout or committed files that was specific to IntelliJ, so if they're good about not committing project files, it should be the same for Eclipse. You'd just be on your own, though.

rsynnott 7y ago

There are Eclipse shops? In 2019? Why? I mean, even IntelliJ Community (which, despite the implications of the name, can be used for everything) is a fair bit better.

enitihas 7y ago
Any place which has internal tooling tightly coupled to Eclipse, and isn't willing to or has not gotten to develop the same for IntelliJ.
bitL 7y ago
Speed in large projects. IntelliJ is super slow once you have huge source/text files. E.g. WebStorm is unusable for debugging as one step over takes ~10s on a 128GB RAM machine in such cases.
- simion314 7y ago
  I am mentioning this in the off chance you did not tried it, exclude the node_modules/vendors/build folders or other third party code that is not part of your project you are editing.
  - bitL 7y ago
    It happens also in own projects that are just huge, without any 3rd party libs.
    - simion314 7y ago
      I am not experiencing this issue and I have a large project PHP and JS plus the plugins for jquery and angular , all linting on. After the project loads I don't feel any lag, I run an i5 6th gen CPU , 4cores. I might have tweaked some VM options years back (my configs and styles are at least 5-6 years old so I do not remember). Also if you transpile all your js into a big minified file, exclude that too, right click on it and there must be an option as mark as plain text.
- nskvortsov 7y ago
  this sounds like a good candidate for issue report. Would you mind collecting performance snapshot and sending it to JetBrains?
sam_lowry_ 7y ago
Because of Eclipse RCP or EMF legacy?

aedron 7y ago

I've been the sole Eclipse developer in a number of places where everyone used IntelliJ. At least a couple of the places had switched from Eclipse after having been worn down by that one incessant IntelliJ guy. A few developers discreetly confided that they would rather have stayed on Eclipse, and some new people followed my lead. None of the places were 'IntelliJ shops' though, any more than I know of any 'Eclipse shops'. It would be rather poor form to hard tie your projects to an IDE, so it was always fairly doable to run with your IDE of choice.

DrScientist 7y ago

I would turn such a role down - not because they use Eclipse, but they are a single IDE 'shop'. The development process should not be tied to the IDE!