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I came to say this. That $270M revenue is backed by a #1 product line. I first tried PHPStorm back in 2014 after I got tired of the wonky debugging capability i
by dmitryminkovsky 7y ago
I came to say this. That $270M revenue is backed by a #1 product line. I first tried PHPStorm back in 2014 after I got tired of the wonky debugging capability in Eclipse. I still think Eclipse is a really important project in the way that JetBrains is the Google of IDEs and Eclipse is maybe the Firefox, and we need Firefoxes.
- nindalf 7y agoMan why you gotta do Firefox dirty like that? Firefox is absolutely the best browser IMO. Unlike Eclipse, which is acceptable but doesn’t hold a candle to JetBrains.
- masklinn 7y ago> Unlike Eclipse, which is acceptable That's a nice way of saying it's a trash fire.
- wolco 7y agoEclipse is gimp Jetbrains is photoshop.
- sam_lowry_ 7y agoPhotoshop is much less free/open than Jetbrains products are.
- wolco 7y agoYou may like them more for a variety of reasons but how is photoshop less free/open than Jetbrains products. Both are commericial products that require a licease and both are on the subscription model after selling unlimited liceases for years.
- sam_lowry_ 7y agoIDEA CE is opensource, many plugins are opensource as well.
- AsyncAwait 7y ago> Both are commericial products that require a licease There are community versions of some of their IDEs, which are fully FLOSS, unlike Photoshop.
- thawaway1837 7y agoWhat happened to Eclipse? I remember there was a time when IBM really invested in it that it was miles better than anything in the Java editing space, or honestly any competitor at the time. For example, instantaneous compiling and error checking was so far ahead it took MS many years to catch up with it. It used to be a matter of huge excitement when a new language or framework was supported by Eclipse. But I moved away from Eclipse for a few years (I wasn’t programming then) and I’m back and suddenly it’s absolute terrible. Not just worse than browsers of the time, but possibly worse than what it was when I last used it.
- dmitryminkovsky 7y agoReally? Is it that bad? I haven’t tried it in a long time but I imagined that if I opened it up it would be pretty good. Got to try it now.
- zmmmmm 7y agoNot sure what you're experiencing but I use Eclipse daily and I can't see anything remotely like what you're describing. It's clunky and sometimes slow (esp. if you run it with default memory - ALWAYS increase the memory). But it works just fine for me.
- aedron 7y agoFunny, the two things you mention (instantaneous compiling and error checking) are still better in Eclipse.
- tolle 7y agoIBM getting involved in something is usually a death sentence. Initially they might inspire hope. But they'll turn everything into a horrible mess lacking those polishing touches that makes stuff nice to work with. They'll tick feature check-boxes. But the stuff will barely be usable.
- dmitryminkovsky 7y agoI thought Eclipse was pretty good... obviously not a 1-to-1 comparison...
- Gene_Parmesan 7y agoMozilla has made a commitment to privacy into its products' main differentiator, and I am 100% okay with that. The fact that FF ships with its Facebook container system turned on by default, and that it just works, is probably my favorite browser feature in quite some time.