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I set my passport country to Sweden and clicked on Germany, and it said I don't need a visa for a 90-day tourist stay. But within the EU and EEA, no visa is nee

I set my passport country to Sweden and clicked on Germany, and it said I don't need a visa for a 90-day tourist stay. But within the EU and EEA, no visa is needed even for a longer stay, under the freedom of movement laws.

jiofih 7y ago
The freedom of movement agreement gives you exactly three months stay, same as Schengen, exempt from border control. It can be extended to six months max, and over that you need a work / residence visa. https://ec.europa.eu/info/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/eu-citizenship/movement-and-residence_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/policies/justice-and-fundamental-r...
- TazeTSchnitzel 7y ago
  “Agreement”? I am referring to the citizens' rights directive. Even if de jure you might need a visa for a very long visit, they don't stamp your passport when you come in and out, and they can't deport you. And no visa is required to work or study for unlimited periods.
  - boulos 7y ago
    At least in Germany, the answer is nuanced: https://www.bmi.bund.de/EN/topics/migration/law-on-foreigners/freedom-of-movement/freedom-of-movement-node.html https://www.bmi.bund.de/EN/topics/migration/law-on-foreigner... you are apparently not allowed to just move there if you aren’t self-sufficient: > EU citizens have the right of residence for longer than three months if they - are workers or self-employed persons in the host Member State or are seeking employment (for a certain length of time); - are not in employment or are students or trainees and have sufficient resources and comprehensive health insurance cover; - have the right of permanent residence (following legal residence of five years). - Family members, regardless of their citizenship, accompanying or joining an EU citizen who satisfies these conditions also have the right of residence for more than three months. > So the underlying idea is that in order to reside for more than three months in another Member State, EU citizens must have sufficient resources for themselves and their family members not to become a burden on the social assistance system of the host Member State.

jiofih 7y ago

The freedom of movement agreement gives you exactly three months stay, same as Schengen, exempt from border control. It can be extended to six months max, and over that you need a work / residence visa. https://ec.europa.eu/info/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/eu-citizenship/movement-and-residence_en https://ec.europa.eu/info/policies/justice-and-fundamental-r...

TazeTSchnitzel 7y ago
“Agreement”? I am referring to the citizens' rights directive. Even if de jure you might need a visa for a very long visit, they don't stamp your passport when you come in and out, and they can't deport you. And no visa is required to work or study for unlimited periods.
- boulos 7y ago
  At least in Germany, the answer is nuanced: https://www.bmi.bund.de/EN/topics/migration/law-on-foreigners/freedom-of-movement/freedom-of-movement-node.html https://www.bmi.bund.de/EN/topics/migration/law-on-foreigner... you are apparently not allowed to just move there if you aren’t self-sufficient: > EU citizens have the right of residence for longer than three months if they - are workers or self-employed persons in the host Member State or are seeking employment (for a certain length of time); - are not in employment or are students or trainees and have sufficient resources and comprehensive health insurance cover; - have the right of permanent residence (following legal residence of five years). - Family members, regardless of their citizenship, accompanying or joining an EU citizen who satisfies these conditions also have the right of residence for more than three months. > So the underlying idea is that in order to reside for more than three months in another Member State, EU citizens must have sufficient resources for themselves and their family members not to become a burden on the social assistance system of the host Member State.