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Unhappy Linux users, start appreciating the variety of choices you have in terms of desktop environments. You don't have to suffer because you feel subjugated b

Unhappy Linux users, start appreciating the variety of choices you have in terms of desktop environments. You don't have to suffer because you feel subjugated by GNOME. I suggest trying KDE for a while, if you want to know what being treated as a competent user feels like.

BoorishBears 7y ago
Unhappy Linux users, try a MacBook! POSIX without being a POS
- ben-schaaf 7y ago
  Not gp, but I'd love to run OSX legally, even if just for testing. But their hardware doesnt fit my requirements, nor is it a good value for money.
  - bluejekyll 7y ago
    It depends on what you value for that money. Of course all of this is personal opinion, but I’ll give it. The 2015 and now 2019 MacBook pros are the best fit and finish computers on the market (yes I skipped the nonsense they did with that keyboard and thinness over heat and battery size nonsense in between). The keyboards are my favorite touch out of anything on the market. The screen, while annoyingly reflective, has great quality and pixel density. The OS despite flaws in each new release, within a patch generally is more stable than any other I touch on a daily basis. The battery life first on the 2015 laptop and now on the 2019 version was the first time I’ve experienced using a machine that I could program on and watch movies on flights across the country, without concern of running out of juice. The trackpad is better than anything else that I’ve tried on the market. Yes, a lot of this could be due to limited experience of other systems out there, but Apple despite its missteps, generally lives up to producing a luxury brand computer that doesn’t feel like a waste of money given the joy of the overall experience.
    - nieve 7y ago
      I recently switched from macbooks to the awfully named ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2 (the big sister of the X1 Carbon) running linux and I've found it's hardware superior for me in almost all ways: much better thermal management even with running an Nvidia gpu flat out; a keyboard that manages to feel firmly clicky without distinctly clicking that probably won't die in six months (no, I don't trust Apple the sixth or seventh time they lie); the ability to disable microphone, cam, or both in the BIOS; the trackpoint and three physical mouse buttons; a more convenient screen size; a more standard range of ports - 2xUSB-A, 2xUSB-C/Thunderbolt, SD, HDMI, mic/headphones, and RJ45 (with adapter); even the small raised bar instead of a pair of feet under contributing to a better grip. I've owned Mac laptops since that meant PowerPC or a more exotic processor, used Mac OS since the week Macs were released. I've also been a heavy ThinkPad user since 2000. These days if you're a unix person Macs simply don't earn their price premium and they require a lot more fiddling than my openSUSE & Cinnamon ThinkPad. I'm running the bleeding edge Tumbleweed rolling release and I'm still having fewer random problems than the last couple of OS X releases gave me.
- gbil 7y ago
  I have installed at least 5-6 utilities on my work Mac to be able to work productively, that is to work with more than 1 window at the same time. I really miss my KDE desktop at such times which I can customize at will It just might be me, as I was also never able to feel comfortable with iOS but as long as I can find a solution to do my work I don't complaint much, at least less than when I was 20 :)
- dang 7y ago
  Please don't post unsubstantive comments or take HN threads into flamewar. We don't want that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - BoorishBears 7y ago
    Oh please. It was clearly a humorous comment with the "substance" OSX enjoys a lot of developer support a-la-Linux ... because of POSIX support (amongst other things) Anyone who uses such obvious satire as an excuse to start a flamewar could start a flamewar over a lot less, I was under the impression I don't have to write with petulant children being my target audience. - I think the most annoying thing about this is plenty of people got that without issue, the comment existed for hours with plenty of useful discussion from people who understood the satire... Then some upset person taking it as a personal slight flags the post and now it's hidden, how silly.
    - dang 7y ago
      Your intention wasn't obvious, the joke wasn't funny, and it was guaranteed to land as a provocation with someone, since it's basically a trollish remark. There's nothing wrong with humour per se, but most people overrate the humour in their own comments. scott_s said it best: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7609289 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7609289 It looks like you've been breaking the site guidelines in other comments as well. Would you mind reading them and sticking to the intended spirit of the site when posting here? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - BoorishBears 7y ago
        "the joke wasn't funny" is your opinion, and clearly it's own kind of bait. The comment was upvoted and well received, and even generated an actual discussion until it was flagged and people jumped on the bandwagon. There was nothing wrong for people who approached the comment and "assumed good faith"
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BoorishBears 7y ago

Unhappy Linux users, try a MacBook! POSIX without being a POS

ben-schaaf 7y ago
Not gp, but I'd love to run OSX legally, even if just for testing. But their hardware doesnt fit my requirements, nor is it a good value for money.
- bluejekyll 7y ago
  It depends on what you value for that money. Of course all of this is personal opinion, but I’ll give it. The 2015 and now 2019 MacBook pros are the best fit and finish computers on the market (yes I skipped the nonsense they did with that keyboard and thinness over heat and battery size nonsense in between). The keyboards are my favorite touch out of anything on the market. The screen, while annoyingly reflective, has great quality and pixel density. The OS despite flaws in each new release, within a patch generally is more stable than any other I touch on a daily basis. The battery life first on the 2015 laptop and now on the 2019 version was the first time I’ve experienced using a machine that I could program on and watch movies on flights across the country, without concern of running out of juice. The trackpad is better than anything else that I’ve tried on the market. Yes, a lot of this could be due to limited experience of other systems out there, but Apple despite its missteps, generally lives up to producing a luxury brand computer that doesn’t feel like a waste of money given the joy of the overall experience.
  - nieve 7y ago
    I recently switched from macbooks to the awfully named ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2 (the big sister of the X1 Carbon) running linux and I've found it's hardware superior for me in almost all ways: much better thermal management even with running an Nvidia gpu flat out; a keyboard that manages to feel firmly clicky without distinctly clicking that probably won't die in six months (no, I don't trust Apple the sixth or seventh time they lie); the ability to disable microphone, cam, or both in the BIOS; the trackpoint and three physical mouse buttons; a more convenient screen size; a more standard range of ports - 2xUSB-A, 2xUSB-C/Thunderbolt, SD, HDMI, mic/headphones, and RJ45 (with adapter); even the small raised bar instead of a pair of feet under contributing to a better grip. I've owned Mac laptops since that meant PowerPC or a more exotic processor, used Mac OS since the week Macs were released. I've also been a heavy ThinkPad user since 2000. These days if you're a unix person Macs simply don't earn their price premium and they require a lot more fiddling than my openSUSE & Cinnamon ThinkPad. I'm running the bleeding edge Tumbleweed rolling release and I'm still having fewer random problems than the last couple of OS X releases gave me.
gbil 7y ago
I have installed at least 5-6 utilities on my work Mac to be able to work productively, that is to work with more than 1 window at the same time. I really miss my KDE desktop at such times which I can customize at will It just might be me, as I was also never able to feel comfortable with iOS but as long as I can find a solution to do my work I don't complaint much, at least less than when I was 20 :)
dang 7y ago
Please don't post unsubstantive comments or take HN threads into flamewar. We don't want that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- BoorishBears 7y ago
  Oh please. It was clearly a humorous comment with the "substance" OSX enjoys a lot of developer support a-la-Linux ... because of POSIX support (amongst other things) Anyone who uses such obvious satire as an excuse to start a flamewar could start a flamewar over a lot less, I was under the impression I don't have to write with petulant children being my target audience. - I think the most annoying thing about this is plenty of people got that without issue, the comment existed for hours with plenty of useful discussion from people who understood the satire... Then some upset person taking it as a personal slight flags the post and now it's hidden, how silly.
  - dang 7y ago
    Your intention wasn't obvious, the joke wasn't funny, and it was guaranteed to land as a provocation with someone, since it's basically a trollish remark. There's nothing wrong with humour per se, but most people overrate the humour in their own comments. scott_s said it best: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7609289 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7609289 It looks like you've been breaking the site guidelines in other comments as well. Would you mind reading them and sticking to the intended spirit of the site when posting here? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - BoorishBears 7y ago
      "the joke wasn't funny" is your opinion, and clearly it's own kind of bait. The comment was upvoted and well received, and even generated an actual discussion until it was flagged and people jumped on the bandwagon. There was nothing wrong for people who approached the comment and "assumed good faith"

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