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Happy MacOS users.. In linux land, we have gnome shell which simply removed support for menubar icons and have never re-added the functionality since. Goodbye d

Happy MacOS users.. In linux land, we have gnome shell which simply removed support for menubar icons and have never re-added the functionality since. Goodbye dropbox, slack, skype menubar icons. Try using some hacks to see their icons again. I'm very bitter about this.

danieldk 7y ago
Me too. And the extensions are quite buggy. gnome-shell crashes less often since I've removed them. But now I end up with inaccessible (except by launching the app again) Skype, Spotify, etc. instances. This behavior is also difficult to understand for novice users. I understand that the implementation of systray icons were a hack. But don't remove basic functionality until there is a supported replacement. On the other hand, this should not have come as a surprise. They have also removed menus and replaced them by incomplete, unusable hamburger menus. /grumpy GNOME user
- zozbot234 7y ago
  What do systray icons give you that simply keeping the windows open on a spare virtual desktop doesn't? Notifications ought to be still supported, right?
noisem4ker 7y ago
Unhappy Linux users, start appreciating the variety of choices you have in terms of desktop environments. You don't have to suffer because you feel subjugated by GNOME. I suggest trying KDE for a while, if you want to know what being treated as a competent user feels like.
- BoorishBears 7y ago
  Unhappy Linux users, try a MacBook! POSIX without being a POS
  - ben-schaaf 7y ago
    Not gp, but I'd love to run OSX legally, even if just for testing. But their hardware doesnt fit my requirements, nor is it a good value for money.
    - bluejekyll 7y ago
      It depends on what you value for that money. Of course all of this is personal opinion, but I’ll give it. The 2015 and now 2019 MacBook pros are the best fit and finish computers on the market (yes I skipped the nonsense they did with that keyboard and thinness over heat and battery size nonsense in between). The keyboards are my favorite touch out of anything on the market. The screen, while annoyingly reflective, has great quality and pixel density. The OS despite flaws in each new release, within a patch generally is more stable than any other I touch on a daily basis. The battery life first on the 2015 laptop and now on the 2019 version was the first time I’ve experienced using a machine that I could program on and watch movies on flights across the country, without concern of running out of juice. The trackpad is better than anything else that I’ve tried on the market. Yes, a lot of this could be due to limited experience of other systems out there, but Apple despite its missteps, generally lives up to producing a luxury brand computer that doesn’t feel like a waste of money given the joy of the overall experience.
      - nieve 7y ago
        I recently switched from macbooks to the awfully named ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2 (the big sister of the X1 Carbon) running linux and I've found it's hardware superior for me in almost all ways: much better thermal management even with running an Nvidia gpu flat out; a keyboard that manages to feel firmly clicky without distinctly clicking that probably won't die in six months (no, I don't trust Apple the sixth or seventh time they lie); the ability to disable microphone, cam, or both in the BIOS; the trackpoint and three physical mouse buttons; a more convenient screen size; a more standard range of ports - 2xUSB-A, 2xUSB-C/Thunderbolt, SD, HDMI, mic/headphones, and RJ45 (with adapter); even the small raised bar instead of a pair of feet under contributing to a better grip. I've owned Mac laptops since that meant PowerPC or a more exotic processor, used Mac OS since the week Macs were released. I've also been a heavy ThinkPad user since 2000. These days if you're a unix person Macs simply don't earn their price premium and they require a lot more fiddling than my openSUSE & Cinnamon ThinkPad. I'm running the bleeding edge Tumbleweed rolling release and I'm still having fewer random problems than the last couple of OS X releases gave me.
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d4rti 7y ago
I run KDE on my personal desktop and we have the system tray icons. Now if I could figure out Mac style copy and paste it would be just about perfect.
- jtreminio 7y ago
  What do you mean? Keyboard shortcuts (using ALT + C/V) or something else?
  - aiilns 7y ago
    Changing keybindings is really easy. I understood the comment as copying Mac's style (unclear what exactly) and recreating it on KDE. But maybe that's the weird translation from English in my head.
rmellow 7y ago
And Application Menus as well have been forcefully disabled. I moved to KDE after that and surprisingly, it's lighter. Considering that I don't have to rely on Gnome Shell hacks for basic functionality, my KDE system is even more stable.
heavyset_go 7y ago
GNOME shell user here with menubar icons, it isn't a problem for me.
ohazi 7y ago
I've been using XFCE since Gnome 3 was released. It can be configured to look almost exactly like Gnome 2 did, and supports the menubar icons and indicators that Gnome decided to drop.
diffeomorphism 7y ago
You mean system tray, right? It is still there just in the bottom left instead of the top right. Also, you know that you can use any panel or dock you like in gnome shell? For example lxpanel, tint2,...
m-p-3 7y ago
Me too, these icons served a useful purpose. I'm still salty about not seeing my Syncthing-GTK status there anymore.. Elementary also got affected by this.

danieldk 7y ago

Me too. And the extensions are quite buggy. gnome-shell crashes less often since I've removed them. But now I end up with inaccessible (except by launching the app again) Skype, Spotify, etc. instances. This behavior is also difficult to understand for novice users. I understand that the implementation of systray icons were a hack. But don't remove basic functionality until there is a supported replacement. On the other hand, this should not have come as a surprise. They have also removed menus and replaced them by incomplete, unusable hamburger menus. /grumpy GNOME user

zozbot234 7y ago
What do systray icons give you that simply keeping the windows open on a spare virtual desktop doesn't? Notifications ought to be still supported, right?

noisem4ker 7y ago

Unhappy Linux users, start appreciating the variety of choices you have in terms of desktop environments. You don't have to suffer because you feel subjugated by GNOME. I suggest trying KDE for a while, if you want to know what being treated as a competent user feels like.

BoorishBears 7y ago
Unhappy Linux users, try a MacBook! POSIX without being a POS
- ben-schaaf 7y ago
  Not gp, but I'd love to run OSX legally, even if just for testing. But their hardware doesnt fit my requirements, nor is it a good value for money.
  - bluejekyll 7y ago
    It depends on what you value for that money. Of course all of this is personal opinion, but I’ll give it. The 2015 and now 2019 MacBook pros are the best fit and finish computers on the market (yes I skipped the nonsense they did with that keyboard and thinness over heat and battery size nonsense in between). The keyboards are my favorite touch out of anything on the market. The screen, while annoyingly reflective, has great quality and pixel density. The OS despite flaws in each new release, within a patch generally is more stable than any other I touch on a daily basis. The battery life first on the 2015 laptop and now on the 2019 version was the first time I’ve experienced using a machine that I could program on and watch movies on flights across the country, without concern of running out of juice. The trackpad is better than anything else that I’ve tried on the market. Yes, a lot of this could be due to limited experience of other systems out there, but Apple despite its missteps, generally lives up to producing a luxury brand computer that doesn’t feel like a waste of money given the joy of the overall experience.
    - nieve 7y ago
      I recently switched from macbooks to the awfully named ThinkPad X1 Extreme Gen 2 (the big sister of the X1 Carbon) running linux and I've found it's hardware superior for me in almost all ways: much better thermal management even with running an Nvidia gpu flat out; a keyboard that manages to feel firmly clicky without distinctly clicking that probably won't die in six months (no, I don't trust Apple the sixth or seventh time they lie); the ability to disable microphone, cam, or both in the BIOS; the trackpoint and three physical mouse buttons; a more convenient screen size; a more standard range of ports - 2xUSB-A, 2xUSB-C/Thunderbolt, SD, HDMI, mic/headphones, and RJ45 (with adapter); even the small raised bar instead of a pair of feet under contributing to a better grip. I've owned Mac laptops since that meant PowerPC or a more exotic processor, used Mac OS since the week Macs were released. I've also been a heavy ThinkPad user since 2000. These days if you're a unix person Macs simply don't earn their price premium and they require a lot more fiddling than my openSUSE & Cinnamon ThinkPad. I'm running the bleeding edge Tumbleweed rolling release and I'm still having fewer random problems than the last couple of OS X releases gave me.
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d4rti 7y ago

I run KDE on my personal desktop and we have the system tray icons. Now if I could figure out Mac style copy and paste it would be just about perfect.

jtreminio 7y ago
What do you mean? Keyboard shortcuts (using ALT + C/V) or something else?
- aiilns 7y ago
  Changing keybindings is really easy. I understood the comment as copying Mac's style (unclear what exactly) and recreating it on KDE. But maybe that's the weird translation from English in my head.

rmellow 7y ago

And Application Menus as well have been forcefully disabled. I moved to KDE after that and surprisingly, it's lighter. Considering that I don't have to rely on Gnome Shell hacks for basic functionality, my KDE system is even more stable.

heavyset_go 7y ago

GNOME shell user here with menubar icons, it isn't a problem for me.

ohazi 7y ago

I've been using XFCE since Gnome 3 was released. It can be configured to look almost exactly like Gnome 2 did, and supports the menubar icons and indicators that Gnome decided to drop.

diffeomorphism 7y ago

You mean system tray, right? It is still there just in the bottom left instead of the top right. Also, you know that you can use any panel or dock you like in gnome shell? For example lxpanel, tint2,...

m-p-3 7y ago

Me too, these icons served a useful purpose. I'm still salty about not seeing my Syncthing-GTK status there anymore.. Elementary also got affected by this.