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that will change when they figure out the privacy implications

by OrgNet 7y ago

shadowgovt 7y ago
Evidence suggests it does not.
- OnlineGladiator 7y ago
  It's depressing how true this is.
diffserv 7y ago
Can you expand on the the privacy implications? How is this different than picking up the phone and having your convo go through ATT/Verizon networks? or using your ISP? Both parties can "legally" work with authorities to wiretap you? Are you worried that the (training) algorithms that run on your voice somehow end up leaking your identity? Or are you worried that someone at Google knows your voice? Also, not sure if Google has this fact in their ToS but if they do, what is the issue?
- klyrs 7y ago
  Phone networks are not primarily advertising agencies, and they're regulated as utilities, so the difference is nontrivial. And the personalized risk isn't from random strangers knowing your voice -- it's your stalker ex, or other bad actors, who might get way more insight into your life than you want
- OrgNet 7y ago
  > Or are you worried that someone at Google knows your voice? Google already knows who you are, now they know a bit more about you, including what you talk about, and of course your voice which probably can be used to locate you with all those "smart" speakers around.
- user83729 7y ago
  Please don't compare tech companies with telecommunications, banks or other sectors. There are hundreds of years of laws and jurisprudence regulating all other sectors an "basically none" regulating tech. For the record, I don't what to need an ad tech support and feel like the no named someone on the other side knows that I had sex with my wife last night. Am I asking too much? Is tech ignorance my only refuge? Will I need to censor myself all the time because I can never know if/when some bad it ashaming situation may occur? Can't people really see how 24/7 digital surveillance isn't healthy? Haven't we learned already society can't blindly trust corporations?
anticensor 7y ago
you mean when Larry's private life gets breached

that will change when they figure out the privacy implications

by OrgNet 7y ago

that will change when they figure out the privacy implications

shadowgovt 7y ago

Evidence suggests it does not.

OnlineGladiator 7y ago
It's depressing how true this is.

diffserv 7y ago

Can you expand on the the privacy implications? How is this different than picking up the phone and having your convo go through ATT/Verizon networks? or using your ISP? Both parties can "legally" work with authorities to wiretap you? Are you worried that the (training) algorithms that run on your voice somehow end up leaking your identity? Or are you worried that someone at Google knows your voice? Also, not sure if Google has this fact in their ToS but if they do, what is the issue?

klyrs 7y ago
Phone networks are not primarily advertising agencies, and they're regulated as utilities, so the difference is nontrivial. And the personalized risk isn't from random strangers knowing your voice -- it's your stalker ex, or other bad actors, who might get way more insight into your life than you want
OrgNet 7y ago
> Or are you worried that someone at Google knows your voice? Google already knows who you are, now they know a bit more about you, including what you talk about, and of course your voice which probably can be used to locate you with all those "smart" speakers around.
user83729 7y ago
Please don't compare tech companies with telecommunications, banks or other sectors. There are hundreds of years of laws and jurisprudence regulating all other sectors an "basically none" regulating tech. For the record, I don't what to need an ad tech support and feel like the no named someone on the other side knows that I had sex with my wife last night. Am I asking too much? Is tech ignorance my only refuge? Will I need to censor myself all the time because I can never know if/when some bad it ashaming situation may occur? Can't people really see how 24/7 digital surveillance isn't healthy? Haven't we learned already society can't blindly trust corporations?

anticensor 7y ago

you mean when Larry's private life gets breached