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I have no problem if you spend some time on pointless stuff, I do it too. I have a problem with the edonistic status quo where to decide a new project the norm

I have no problem if you spend some time on pointless stuff, I do it too. I have a problem with the edonistic status quo where to decide a new project the norm is to suggest to do "something you like" instead of "something that is needed". You're pretending that there's a debate and it's 50-50, while the reality is that the perspective is totally skewed towards programmers' amusement.

esotericn 7y ago
I program things that others need all the time. That's my day job, as a contractor or salaried worker. In exchange, I get money which I can give to others in exchange for things I need. You seem to be suggesting that everyone is effectively 'at work' all of the time, and that every activity they do should be chosen based on some sense of virtue. That's a recipe for burnout in my books.
chobeat 7y ago
Ah ok, if you actually do something useful at work, that's different. Most people develop useless software at work. You must be privileged or maybe you work for some non-profit. I hope you get a decent salary because these days it's very hard to work on relevant things and get paid well.
- detaro 7y ago
  Please put your replies to comments under the comments, not next to them. You can always get a reply box by clicking on a comments timestamp.
  - Stratoscope 7y ago
    Just to clarify, you can also reply to a comment directly from the thread by clicking the Reply link under the comment. However, for any comment that is a direct reply to one of your own comments, there is a "cooling off" period of several minutes before the Reply link and reply box are available. chobeat, if you don't see these reply options, please wait five minutes and then refresh the page.
    - pvg 7y ago
      You don't have to wait if you click on the timestamp. That's what the comment you're replying to is saying - there's a workaround to the timeout.
      - Stratoscope 7y ago
        Oh, I didn't know that. Thank you for the correction!

esotericn 7y ago

I program things that others need all the time. That's my day job, as a contractor or salaried worker. In exchange, I get money which I can give to others in exchange for things I need. You seem to be suggesting that everyone is effectively 'at work' all of the time, and that every activity they do should be chosen based on some sense of virtue. That's a recipe for burnout in my books.

chobeat 7y ago

Ah ok, if you actually do something useful at work, that's different. Most people develop useless software at work. You must be privileged or maybe you work for some non-profit. I hope you get a decent salary because these days it's very hard to work on relevant things and get paid well.

detaro 7y ago
Please put your replies to comments under the comments, not next to them. You can always get a reply box by clicking on a comments timestamp.
- Stratoscope 7y ago
  Just to clarify, you can also reply to a comment directly from the thread by clicking the Reply link under the comment. However, for any comment that is a direct reply to one of your own comments, there is a "cooling off" period of several minutes before the Reply link and reply box are available. chobeat, if you don't see these reply options, please wait five minutes and then refresh the page.
  - pvg 7y ago
    You don't have to wait if you click on the timestamp. That's what the comment you're replying to is saying - there's a workaround to the timeout.
    - Stratoscope 7y ago
      Oh, I didn't know that. Thank you for the correction!