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Toyota is ready to make BEVs at scale: https://www.thedrive.com/tech/28424/toyota-subaru-suzuki-and-mazda-throw-their-combined-16-million-might-behind-bevs http

Toyota is ready to make BEVs at scale: https://www.thedrive.com/tech/28424/toyota-subaru-suzuki-and-mazda-throw-their-combined-16-million-might-behind-bevs https://www.thedrive.com/tech/28424/toyota-subaru-suzuki-and... And is investing in making solid-state batteries affordable at scale: https://www.sae.org/news/2019/09/battery-show-solid-state-battery-roundtable https://www.sae.org/news/2019/09/battery-show-solid-state-ba...

amluto 7y ago
Many companies are “ready” to make BEVs. Where are all the BEVs, then?
- ianai 7y ago
  They’re coming. Mini announced all of their models would be electric in 3-5 years, I think. Most or all have some plan for BEVs in coming car generations.
  - erikpukinskis 7y ago
    Your exact comment could have been posted three years ago, and three years before that, with Chevrolet, or Audi, or Volkswagen named. And yet, here we are, and only one company in the world is actually building the factories you’d need to sell a half million EVs in a year. There’s too much money in not making EVs for any of these companies to start making them a day before the market forces them too.
    - spenrose 7y ago
      After 10 seconds of Googling, here are the new (BEV: 11 models / PHEV: 9 models) models shipping in the US next year: https://evadoption.com/future-evs/new-electric-vehicles-in-2020/ https://evadoption.com/future-evs/new-electric-vehicles-in-2... I will leave as an exercise for the two of you to Google: 1. How many new EVs arrived in 2019, in the US and worldwide? 2. How many are committed for 2021, in the US and worldwide? You might start with VW committing to 27 models in 2022: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1118857_vw-plans-27-electric-cars-by-2022-on-new-platform https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1118857_vw-plans-27-ele...
      - erikpukinskis 7y ago
        None of those models are planned to sell 100k let alone 500k. They are compliance cars—a tax break, basically, so they can keep selling internal combustion engines without paying penalties.
- clouddrover 7y ago
  I think the answer is to time travel to the year 2020 (it should take you about two weeks) and to also be in Europe. Here's just Volkswagen's EV models for the next year or so: - VW e-Up!: https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/vws-updated-e-up-offers-161-mile-range-costs-less-than-its-predecessor/ https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/vws-updated-e-up-offers-16... - VW e-Golf (sold over 100,000 but will be replaced by the ID.3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah4lrqWx8E0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah4lrqWx8E0 - VW ID.3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op4HO6GHC8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op4HO6GHC8Q - VW ID.4: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-frankfurt-motor-show/volkswagen-id-4-electric-suv-winter-tests-curious-disguise https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-frankfurt-mot... - SEAT Mii: https://www.electrive.com/2019/09/11/seat-mii-available-to-order-soon-for-20650e/ https://www.electrive.com/2019/09/11/seat-mii-available-to-o... - SEAT el-Born: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZI7WFtwc8g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZI7WFtwc8g - Cupra Tavascan (maybe, not confirmed): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNYHRKp4n1w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNYHRKp4n1w - Skoda Citigo iV: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-skoda-citigo-e-iv-cost-%C2%A316955-uk https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-skoda-citigo... - Skoda Vision iV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1g9xl6W_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1g9xl6W_E - Audi e-tron (and also the new "sportsback" variant): https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-e-tron https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-e-tron - Audi e-tron Q4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiwevzHsCbU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiwevzHsCbU - Audi e-tron GT (maybe 2021): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMEdiq2xTbQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMEdiq2xTbQ - Porsche Taycan (and the Sports Turismo wagon variant in future): https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/taycan/ https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/taycan/ And other manufacturers are delivering more EVs in 2020.
  - AtlasBarfed 7y ago
    Lots of models, but where will the batteries come from? Only Tesla seems to have the proper vertical integration although I've heard VW group is investing in battery factories.
    - clouddrover 7y ago
      Sweden, Korea, and China: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-electric-batteries-idUSKCN1U30I8 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-electric-batte...

amluto 7y ago

Many companies are “ready” to make BEVs. Where are all the BEVs, then?

ianai 7y ago
They’re coming. Mini announced all of their models would be electric in 3-5 years, I think. Most or all have some plan for BEVs in coming car generations.
- erikpukinskis 7y ago
  Your exact comment could have been posted three years ago, and three years before that, with Chevrolet, or Audi, or Volkswagen named. And yet, here we are, and only one company in the world is actually building the factories you’d need to sell a half million EVs in a year. There’s too much money in not making EVs for any of these companies to start making them a day before the market forces them too.
  - spenrose 7y ago
    After 10 seconds of Googling, here are the new (BEV: 11 models / PHEV: 9 models) models shipping in the US next year: https://evadoption.com/future-evs/new-electric-vehicles-in-2020/ https://evadoption.com/future-evs/new-electric-vehicles-in-2... I will leave as an exercise for the two of you to Google: 1. How many new EVs arrived in 2019, in the US and worldwide? 2. How many are committed for 2021, in the US and worldwide? You might start with VW committing to 27 models in 2022: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1118857_vw-plans-27-electric-cars-by-2022-on-new-platform https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1118857_vw-plans-27-ele...
    - erikpukinskis 7y ago
      None of those models are planned to sell 100k let alone 500k. They are compliance cars—a tax break, basically, so they can keep selling internal combustion engines without paying penalties.
clouddrover 7y ago
I think the answer is to time travel to the year 2020 (it should take you about two weeks) and to also be in Europe. Here's just Volkswagen's EV models for the next year or so: - VW e-Up!: https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/vws-updated-e-up-offers-161-mile-range-costs-less-than-its-predecessor/ https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/vws-updated-e-up-offers-16... - VW e-Golf (sold over 100,000 but will be replaced by the ID.3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah4lrqWx8E0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah4lrqWx8E0 - VW ID.3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op4HO6GHC8Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op4HO6GHC8Q - VW ID.4: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-frankfurt-motor-show/volkswagen-id-4-electric-suv-winter-tests-curious-disguise https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motor-shows-frankfurt-mot... - SEAT Mii: https://www.electrive.com/2019/09/11/seat-mii-available-to-order-soon-for-20650e/ https://www.electrive.com/2019/09/11/seat-mii-available-to-o... - SEAT el-Born: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZI7WFtwc8g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZI7WFtwc8g - Cupra Tavascan (maybe, not confirmed): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNYHRKp4n1w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNYHRKp4n1w - Skoda Citigo iV: https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-skoda-citigo-e-iv-cost-%C2%A316955-uk https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-skoda-citigo... - Skoda Vision iV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1g9xl6W_E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f1g9xl6W_E - Audi e-tron (and also the new "sportsback" variant): https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-e-tron https://www.audiusa.com/models/audi-e-tron - Audi e-tron Q4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiwevzHsCbU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiwevzHsCbU - Audi e-tron GT (maybe 2021): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMEdiq2xTbQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMEdiq2xTbQ - Porsche Taycan (and the Sports Turismo wagon variant in future): https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/taycan/ https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/taycan/ And other manufacturers are delivering more EVs in 2020.
- AtlasBarfed 7y ago
  Lots of models, but where will the batteries come from? Only Tesla seems to have the proper vertical integration although I've heard VW group is investing in battery factories.
  - clouddrover 7y ago
    Sweden, Korea, and China: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-electric-batteries-idUSKCN1U30I8 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-electric-batte...