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Im done being excited by anything out of Intel that isn't an desktop/laptop CPU. I've been burned personally and professionally with every single Intel IoT dev

by noen 7y ago

Im done being excited by anything out of Intel that isn't an desktop/laptop CPU. I've been burned personally and professionally with every single Intel IoT device I've touched. Remember the Edison platform? Huge promises and possibilities that turned into fatally flawed silicon that took Intel 2 years to admit. The Compute Stick? The whole Atom ecosystem? I was so excited by the realsense cameras, we got a bunch of them and thought we must have gotten a bad batch. The hardware was so bad compared to similar cost machine vision cameras, it was astounding. The SDK was great at first glance, a really easy OOBE for multi camera setup and PCL processing. Then you discover over a few weeks how flaky everything is, how brittle the SDK and drivers are (like every other Intel dev platform it seems) and after spending thousands of dollars on hardware and hundreds of hours of dev time, you finally chuck it all in a bin and say "I will never buy Intel crap again" for the third time. Hopefully this Lidar device will buck that trend, but I doubt it. They keep making random IOT hardware platforms with seemingly no long term strategy and no path to commerical implementation.

Reventlov 7y ago
My main problem with non "classic" intel products is the shit user experience that come with them: I don't want to use ubuntu 16.04, just package software in a maintainable way, ffs.
- ptsneves 7y ago
  Which is ironic given they used to push a lot for yocto where everything is a recipe that build stuff from source.
- rubicks 7y ago
  When Intel touts a device "On Linux!(tm)", I have to lower my already meager expectations. So long as you expect the drivers to be very thin open-source wrappers around very brittle proprietary blobs, you won't be unpleasantly surprised.
ptsneves 7y ago
I feel you. If it makes you feel better they do not take a dump only on small customers. Their axiaa business also screws their customers so much. Worst vendor in the industry. We are talking about multi million businesses.
snovv_crash 7y ago
Similar experience with Realsense, except that I need to run them in USB2 mode due to GPS interference from USB3. Their USB2 interface isn't just the USB3 at lower bandwidth, no, it has a bunch of completely unrelated bugs that only appear on USB2. Moreover, even if you turn down the framerate to make sure it isn't a bandwidth issue, the point cloud quality on USB2 is worse than USB3. No idea why, but we've binned our Realsense cameras too.

by noen 7y ago

Reventlov 7y ago

My main problem with non "classic" intel products is the shit user experience that come with them: I don't want to use ubuntu 16.04, just package software in a maintainable way, ffs.

ptsneves 7y ago
Which is ironic given they used to push a lot for yocto where everything is a recipe that build stuff from source.
rubicks 7y ago
When Intel touts a device "On Linux!(tm)", I have to lower my already meager expectations. So long as you expect the drivers to be very thin open-source wrappers around very brittle proprietary blobs, you won't be unpleasantly surprised.

ptsneves 7y ago

I feel you. If it makes you feel better they do not take a dump only on small customers. Their axiaa business also screws their customers so much. Worst vendor in the industry. We are talking about multi million businesses.

snovv_crash 7y ago

Similar experience with Realsense, except that I need to run them in USB2 mode due to GPS interference from USB3. Their USB2 interface isn't just the USB3 at lower bandwidth, no, it has a bunch of completely unrelated bugs that only appear on USB2. Moreover, even if you turn down the framerate to make sure it isn't a bandwidth issue, the point cloud quality on USB2 is worse than USB3. No idea why, but we've binned our Realsense cameras too.