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There are some real gems here. "Smooth Operator" lip balm, a security officer bear, "In God We Trust / All Others We Monitor", a .50-cal bottle opener, "Admit N

There are some real gems here. "Smooth Operator" lip balm, a security officer bear, "In God We Trust / All Others We Monitor", a .50-cal bottle opener, "Admit Nothing Deny Everything", "Beware Of Female Spy", "Screen When Confronted", etc. The NSA gift shop is much more tame in comparison. Have some nice shot glasses from them (won my first at a Defcon panel when everyone was too drunk to answer any questions correctly) [1] https://www.eaamoc.com/Lip-Moisturizer-Smooth-Operator.html https://www.eaamoc.com/Lip-Moisturizer-Smooth-Operator.html [2] https://www.eaamoc.com/Bear-SPO-With-Handcuffs.html https://www.eaamoc.com/Bear-SPO-With-Handcuffs.html [3] https://www.eaamoc.com/T-Scrn-A12-Plane-IGWT-Gy-Wh-S.html https://www.eaamoc.com/T-Scrn-A12-Plane-IGWT-Gy-Wh-S.html [4] https://www.eaamoc.com/Bottle-Opener-50-Cal-Gold.html https://www.eaamoc.com/Bottle-Opener-50-Cal-Gold.html [5] https://www.eaamoc.com/Btl-Scrn-ANDE-Gunmetal-Swell-17oz.html https://www.eaamoc.com/Btl-Scrn-ANDE-Gunmetal-Swell-17oz.htm... [6] https://www.eaamoc.com/Btl-Beware-of-Female-Spy-Pink-17-oz.html https://www.eaamoc.com/Btl-Beware-of-Female-Spy-Pink-17-oz.h... [7] https://www.eaamoc.com/Btl-Scrn-When-Confronted.html https://www.eaamoc.com/Btl-Scrn-When-Confronted.html

nickysielicki 7y ago
> "In God We Trust / All Others We Monitor" Good lord. Seeing it so openly is just bizarre. Where do these places find their employees? I want to be reasonable and try to see both sides, but I really can't. I just don't understand how someone could love this country and also work at a place with this sort of environment and culture. I don't understand the character behind this --- you work for less pay in the public sector, why? Because you love your country? You love your country and you show it by being proud of spying on the average American? Makes no sense. What do you love about America?
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- chrissnell 7y ago
  Intelligence is a function in most every country. It’s like a slaughterhouse or a sewage processing plant: we all enjoy comfort thanks to their existence but most of us would rather not hang out around them or know how the sausage is made, so-to-speak.
  - Koshkin 7y ago
    Well, except they make movies about ones and not the others...
  - RaptorJ 7y ago
    this is entirely true. It's just the thing you leave out is that a sausage factory is built on suffering pigs and the American comfort (as provided by the CIA) is built on a suffering global south.
    - seppin 7y ago
      > built on a suffering global south. If the so-called "global south" had the means to raise their standard of living on the backs of others, they'd do it in a heart beat. Don't think poor countries are in any way more moral, they just have less capacity for overconsumption or exploitation of others.
- Rebelgecko 7y ago
  Other than tests in the US, I'm pretty sure it was only used in war zones (North Korea and Vietnam). To me that's pretty nonobjectionable (not that I necessarily agree with the decision to have those wars, but if we're going to invade a country I'd rather we do it right). The Air Force's version (SR-71) actually has quite a few fans, even amongst people that aren't fans of mass surveillance. It surprises me that even if you don't agree with the use of the airplane, you can't even see why people would be willing to work on it. There's always going to be people that want America to have the biggest/best/most tools in its arsenal. Even if the events going on in SE Asia weren't a direct threat to the US, the A-12 was designed less than 20 years after Pearl Harbor. America got its ass kicked by due to inadequate knowledge of a foreign military's movements. It was that generation's equivalent of 9/11. Anyways, the slogan is a bit tongue and cheek anyways. I don't think that sort of dark humor is uncommon, especially in military/intelligence circles. Check out some of the NRO mission patches and slogans. Some are definitely designed to troll Illuminati/New World Order conspiracy theorists. My favorite is an octopus encircling the Earth with it's graspy tentacles.
  - shillremover 7y ago
    > Other than tests in the US, I'm pretty sure it was only used in war zones (North Korea and Vietnam). To me that's pretty nonobjectionable (not that I necessarily agree with the decision to have those wars, but if we're going to invade a country I'd rather we do it right). Sorry, what was this in response to?
  - inamberclad 7y ago
    Reminds me of a good talk on youtube about mission patches for classified operations. The tanker squadron out of Groom Lake has the text "NBKAWTG... Nobody", and some satellite constellation had semi-accurate orbit actually depicted on the patch.
    - mvdwoord 7y ago
      This one? https://media.ccc.de/v/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312282300_-_seeing_the_secret_state_six_landscapes_-_trevor_paglen https://media.ccc.de/v/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312282...
- stevehawk 7y ago
  The CIA doesn't operate domestically, or at least doesn't make it their day to day. Domestic crime is the FBI. And the quote you cited is a joke. A decent one at that, imho.
  - A_Parr 7y ago
    Because they haven't figured out how to monitor God yet.
    - stevehawk 7y ago
      Not for lack of effort
  - shillremover 7y ago
    > The CIA doesn’t operate domestically Yes they do.
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- ozfive 7y ago
  I don't think you understand what a love for this country is. It's not some superficial fly my flag from the back of a truck and call it a day. It's an active sacrifice of your life to a greater good that isn't necessarily tangible in the way that you would like it. There are people who understand the meaning of love of country much more deeply. As others have pointed out CIA doesn't spy on the American public. They are actively participating in foreign policy. As much as you may not like the idea of having to do unmentionable things we still live in a world where we have enemies that want to do harm to the American public. We have gotten a glimpse into this within several recent generations that still can talk about it. As others have pointed out Pearl harbor was that generation's 9/11. You can sleep safely with your wealth even in the upper middle class of America and beyond, because people sacrifice their lives and their salaries for you. I'm not here to argue about this. My family has always been active military and just recently I found out my great uncle ran spy missions across the Berlin Wall. To be honest I've always wanted to work for the CIA/NSA. Taking a low pay is part of the deal.It's because it's a purpose, a way to give back to your country. As much as people complain, they have no idea how many people have come before them and taken that low wage so that they have the option to take the higher wage. It's a duty like the military that is an honor. I've always respected this as my family has in one way or another been a part of this. You are safe in front of your screen because of those sacrifices. For all of the downvotes I may get for expressing this I will still be proud of what my family has contributed to this country. If people like you do not understand this it is still my duty to educate you on the intangibles of taking a position at the CIA. I'm literally watching a commercial where some rappers are riding around on kids three wheelers for mountain dew. It can be infuriating for some but for others these are the freedoms that are afforded for those sacrifices. You get the freedom to express your opinion and although we may not agree I still support your right to express your opinion. We will all come to a better place because of it.
  - gjkood 7y ago
    Or as commonly attributed to George Orwell... "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."
    - 7y ago
- refurb 7y ago
  Are you arguing that the very act of spying on foreigners means you don’t love America?
- seppin 7y ago
  > You love your country and you show it by being proud of spying on the average American? It's really hard to not judge people harshly when they make such basic and stupid mistakes. CIA spies outside the US, or on foreigners in the US. Not on Americans.
  - shillremover 7y ago
    The CIA does spy domestically on Americans. It’s hard to trust people who make such stupid mistakes as to say they don’t.
  - nickysielicki 7y ago
    What evidence do you have of your claim that they don’t spy on Americans? There are large scale dragnet surveillance programs. What evidence is there that the CIA does not have access to them?
    - seppin 7y ago
      Because the NSA does the large scale signals interception and they are a different agency than the CIA. Different buildings and everything.
csande17 7y ago
I like the description on the bottle opener: > Safe, will not explode.

nickysielicki 7y ago

> "In God We Trust / All Others We Monitor" Good lord. Seeing it so openly is just bizarre. Where do these places find their employees? I want to be reasonable and try to see both sides, but I really can't. I just don't understand how someone could love this country and also work at a place with this sort of environment and culture. I don't understand the character behind this --- you work for less pay in the public sector, why? Because you love your country? You love your country and you show it by being proud of spying on the average American? Makes no sense. What do you love about America?

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chrissnell 7y ago
Intelligence is a function in most every country. It’s like a slaughterhouse or a sewage processing plant: we all enjoy comfort thanks to their existence but most of us would rather not hang out around them or know how the sausage is made, so-to-speak.
- Koshkin 7y ago
  Well, except they make movies about ones and not the others...
- RaptorJ 7y ago
  this is entirely true. It's just the thing you leave out is that a sausage factory is built on suffering pigs and the American comfort (as provided by the CIA) is built on a suffering global south.
  - seppin 7y ago
    > built on a suffering global south. If the so-called "global south" had the means to raise their standard of living on the backs of others, they'd do it in a heart beat. Don't think poor countries are in any way more moral, they just have less capacity for overconsumption or exploitation of others.
Rebelgecko 7y ago
Other than tests in the US, I'm pretty sure it was only used in war zones (North Korea and Vietnam). To me that's pretty nonobjectionable (not that I necessarily agree with the decision to have those wars, but if we're going to invade a country I'd rather we do it right). The Air Force's version (SR-71) actually has quite a few fans, even amongst people that aren't fans of mass surveillance. It surprises me that even if you don't agree with the use of the airplane, you can't even see why people would be willing to work on it. There's always going to be people that want America to have the biggest/best/most tools in its arsenal. Even if the events going on in SE Asia weren't a direct threat to the US, the A-12 was designed less than 20 years after Pearl Harbor. America got its ass kicked by due to inadequate knowledge of a foreign military's movements. It was that generation's equivalent of 9/11. Anyways, the slogan is a bit tongue and cheek anyways. I don't think that sort of dark humor is uncommon, especially in military/intelligence circles. Check out some of the NRO mission patches and slogans. Some are definitely designed to troll Illuminati/New World Order conspiracy theorists. My favorite is an octopus encircling the Earth with it's graspy tentacles.
- shillremover 7y ago
  > Other than tests in the US, I'm pretty sure it was only used in war zones (North Korea and Vietnam). To me that's pretty nonobjectionable (not that I necessarily agree with the decision to have those wars, but if we're going to invade a country I'd rather we do it right). Sorry, what was this in response to?
- inamberclad 7y ago
  Reminds me of a good talk on youtube about mission patches for classified operations. The tanker squadron out of Groom Lake has the text "NBKAWTG... Nobody", and some satellite constellation had semi-accurate orbit actually depicted on the patch.
  - mvdwoord 7y ago
    This one? https://media.ccc.de/v/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312282300_-_seeing_the_secret_state_six_landscapes_-_trevor_paglen https://media.ccc.de/v/30C3_-_5604_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312282...
stevehawk 7y ago
The CIA doesn't operate domestically, or at least doesn't make it their day to day. Domestic crime is the FBI. And the quote you cited is a joke. A decent one at that, imho.
- A_Parr 7y ago
  Because they haven't figured out how to monitor God yet.
  - stevehawk 7y ago
    Not for lack of effort
- shillremover 7y ago
  > The CIA doesn’t operate domestically Yes they do.
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ozfive 7y ago
I don't think you understand what a love for this country is. It's not some superficial fly my flag from the back of a truck and call it a day. It's an active sacrifice of your life to a greater good that isn't necessarily tangible in the way that you would like it. There are people who understand the meaning of love of country much more deeply. As others have pointed out CIA doesn't spy on the American public. They are actively participating in foreign policy. As much as you may not like the idea of having to do unmentionable things we still live in a world where we have enemies that want to do harm to the American public. We have gotten a glimpse into this within several recent generations that still can talk about it. As others have pointed out Pearl harbor was that generation's 9/11. You can sleep safely with your wealth even in the upper middle class of America and beyond, because people sacrifice their lives and their salaries for you. I'm not here to argue about this. My family has always been active military and just recently I found out my great uncle ran spy missions across the Berlin Wall. To be honest I've always wanted to work for the CIA/NSA. Taking a low pay is part of the deal.It's because it's a purpose, a way to give back to your country. As much as people complain, they have no idea how many people have come before them and taken that low wage so that they have the option to take the higher wage. It's a duty like the military that is an honor. I've always respected this as my family has in one way or another been a part of this. You are safe in front of your screen because of those sacrifices. For all of the downvotes I may get for expressing this I will still be proud of what my family has contributed to this country. If people like you do not understand this it is still my duty to educate you on the intangibles of taking a position at the CIA. I'm literally watching a commercial where some rappers are riding around on kids three wheelers for mountain dew. It can be infuriating for some but for others these are the freedoms that are afforded for those sacrifices. You get the freedom to express your opinion and although we may not agree I still support your right to express your opinion. We will all come to a better place because of it.
- gjkood 7y ago
  Or as commonly attributed to George Orwell... "We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."
  - 7y ago
refurb 7y ago
Are you arguing that the very act of spying on foreigners means you don’t love America?
seppin 7y ago
> You love your country and you show it by being proud of spying on the average American? It's really hard to not judge people harshly when they make such basic and stupid mistakes. CIA spies outside the US, or on foreigners in the US. Not on Americans.
- shillremover 7y ago
  The CIA does spy domestically on Americans. It’s hard to trust people who make such stupid mistakes as to say they don’t.
- nickysielicki 7y ago
  What evidence do you have of your claim that they don’t spy on Americans? There are large scale dragnet surveillance programs. What evidence is there that the CIA does not have access to them?
  - seppin 7y ago
    Because the NSA does the large scale signals interception and they are a different agency than the CIA. Different buildings and everything.

csande17 7y ago

I like the description on the bottle opener: > Safe, will not explode.