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> The only excuse I read here on HN is that "I am a 10X dev and I don;t want the union to pay me the same as my colleague that is a lesser developer then me."

> The only excuse I read here on HN is that "I am a 10X dev and I don;t want the union to pay me the same as my colleague that is a lesser developer then me." And one could easily say this is a ploy by management-level people to show the other serfs that "You can make it too!" because paying one dev who's a little better than his peers costs a fraction of paying them all what they should be paid.

throwawaysea 7y ago
> "I am a 10X dev and I don;t want the union to pay me the same as my colleague that is a lesser developer then me." This is a valid concern for highly-paid/specialized individuals, IMO. Price's Law (https://dariusforoux.com/prices-law/ https://dariusforoux.com/prices-law/): 50% of the work is done by the square root of the total number of people who participate in the work.
- simion314 7y ago
  Probably true but how many devs that think they are 10X are just regular devs with 10X ego that compare themselves with the lowest possible dev to feel superior. I could see a union that won't put upper limit but would fight for fairness, extra hours paid double, no more then X hours a month etc.
- FussyZeus 7y ago
  Except that the very concept of a 10X developer, no matter what they themselves may say about it, is disgusting; it's a person who has, even if willingly, distorted their work/life balance to a point where they "go the extra mile" as management would put it; usually involving working off hours, working extra hours, working from home on weekends and evenings, or eschewing general life activities in favor of doing more work. I know this is sacrilege to say this in our system and even moreso in our profession, but this is not good for you. I don't care how much you like it, I don't care how much money you're gaining from it, I don't care if you're the most willing of willing to have ever willed. You're abusing yourself in exchange for money, and that's the end of it and it shouldn't be allowed. You should have a salary commensurate with your skill set, and you should not have to eschew anything resembling a proper work/life balance to do it.
  - throwawaysea 7y ago
    You are assuming that greater value generation is only a function of greater effort in the form of more hours. It is also a function of other things like higher talent, smarter decisions, and past investment in one’s skills.

throwawaysea 7y ago

> "I am a 10X dev and I don;t want the union to pay me the same as my colleague that is a lesser developer then me." This is a valid concern for highly-paid/specialized individuals, IMO. Price's Law (https://dariusforoux.com/prices-law/ https://dariusforoux.com/prices-law/): 50% of the work is done by the square root of the total number of people who participate in the work.

simion314 7y ago
Probably true but how many devs that think they are 10X are just regular devs with 10X ego that compare themselves with the lowest possible dev to feel superior. I could see a union that won't put upper limit but would fight for fairness, extra hours paid double, no more then X hours a month etc.
FussyZeus 7y ago
Except that the very concept of a 10X developer, no matter what they themselves may say about it, is disgusting; it's a person who has, even if willingly, distorted their work/life balance to a point where they "go the extra mile" as management would put it; usually involving working off hours, working extra hours, working from home on weekends and evenings, or eschewing general life activities in favor of doing more work. I know this is sacrilege to say this in our system and even moreso in our profession, but this is not good for you. I don't care how much you like it, I don't care how much money you're gaining from it, I don't care if you're the most willing of willing to have ever willed. You're abusing yourself in exchange for money, and that's the end of it and it shouldn't be allowed. You should have a salary commensurate with your skill set, and you should not have to eschew anything resembling a proper work/life balance to do it.
- throwawaysea 7y ago
  You are assuming that greater value generation is only a function of greater effort in the form of more hours. It is also a function of other things like higher talent, smarter decisions, and past investment in one’s skills.