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It's even worse than that. Most of the GPS child watches or other trackers use a few large Chinese providers; they have little or no security on their APIs and

It's even worse than that. Most of the GPS child watches or other trackers use a few large Chinese providers; they have little or no security on their APIs and administrative panels, (absolutely no API key authentication in at least one case, or `admin`, `admin` type defaults that don't get changed) so don't ever buy any GPS tracking watches for your child.

bluGill 7y ago
Which is unfortunate because there are times when I wish my kid had one. I'm not too worried about kidnapping, but there are times when I want to say come back from the park for dinner.
- martin_a 7y ago
  Buy your kid a dumb watch, explain it to him, tell him to be home at 6, otherwise he will be grounded. Worked for ages, should work for now. (Or to be somewhat less snarky: We should not try to solve every problem with technology, just because we can.)
  - bluGill 7y ago
    Technology solves a problem that the old ways could not, or they were inferior. I recall as a kid my parents driving to the park where we were because a family emergency meant we unexpectedly had to leave now - they would have preferred we walk home while they pack the car (the park was the opposite direction we had to go). I can say be home at 6, but it is easy to lose track of time. Or say 6 and then realize supper will be ready at 5:30 not 6.
    - martin_a 7y ago
      You're making up problems. You have only a very limited number of grandparents that could suddenly die and need the kids to be home right now. And why should the kids need to compensate for your problems with planning of the supper? These were never really problems before, but now people start to force their tight schedules on kids by tracking them all around the clock. That's not okay.
- crooked-v 7y ago
  The Apple Watch (and Apple devices in general) allow for device tracking and location sharing with end-to-end encryption and forward secrecy[1], so it's probably the most secure and privacy-conscious option available for such things. [1]: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/06/the-clever-cryptography-behind-apples-find-my-feature/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/06/the-c...

bluGill 7y ago

Which is unfortunate because there are times when I wish my kid had one. I'm not too worried about kidnapping, but there are times when I want to say come back from the park for dinner.

martin_a 7y ago
Buy your kid a dumb watch, explain it to him, tell him to be home at 6, otherwise he will be grounded. Worked for ages, should work for now. (Or to be somewhat less snarky: We should not try to solve every problem with technology, just because we can.)
- bluGill 7y ago
  Technology solves a problem that the old ways could not, or they were inferior. I recall as a kid my parents driving to the park where we were because a family emergency meant we unexpectedly had to leave now - they would have preferred we walk home while they pack the car (the park was the opposite direction we had to go). I can say be home at 6, but it is easy to lose track of time. Or say 6 and then realize supper will be ready at 5:30 not 6.
  - martin_a 7y ago
    You're making up problems. You have only a very limited number of grandparents that could suddenly die and need the kids to be home right now. And why should the kids need to compensate for your problems with planning of the supper? These were never really problems before, but now people start to force their tight schedules on kids by tracking them all around the clock. That's not okay.
crooked-v 7y ago
The Apple Watch (and Apple devices in general) allow for device tracking and location sharing with end-to-end encryption and forward secrecy[1], so it's probably the most secure and privacy-conscious option available for such things. [1]: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/06/the-clever-cryptography-behind-apples-find-my-feature/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/06/the-c...