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Brexit: Conservatives winning majority in UK parliament
- xchaotic 7y agoThis has bigger and impact on startup ecosystem worldwide than say a new framework etc but no one is discussing this. I wonder if people gave up on the idea that tech can help make informed decisions ? It looks like people voted off their emotions and based on what they would like to happen (UK being a sovereign empire again) and not based on what is realistic- a bunch of trade deals that are worse off than being in the EU
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- ggsp 7y agoWhat do you reckon the impact on the international and national startup ecosystems will be?
- Luc 7y agoStartups are cheap for a government to support. I expect the Conservative government will make the UK even more attractive as a location to start a business in an attempt to counter Brexit's negative effects.
- vanniv 7y agoIt seems these days like every time someone sees an election that doesn't go their way, they assume that the voters on the other side were clearly all imbeciles voting for their own destruction. That's an incredibly naive and narcissistic view of the world.
- scarmig 7y agoI'm tired of this radical subjectivism anytime people vote for something stupid. Sometimes people cut off their nose to spite their face. Reading convoluted reasoning about how it was really actually rational from their perspective because reasons and values never adds anything, either.
- thu2111 7y agoThat's a very convoluted way to say you aren't interested in debate or having an open mind. So be it.
- ananth22by7 7y agoI really wish your comment wasn’t downvoted. I hear you.
- scarmig 7y agoThe parent comment was condemning people for deigning to criticize sacred cows like Brexit. People are free to have stupid, wrong opinions, but they shouldn't whine when people point out they're stupid, wrong opinions. Debate is great! But you really need a thicker skin and can't demand safe spaces to protect every intellectual vanity you hold.
- happymellon 7y agoWhat would be the pros to Brexit?
- s9w 7y agonot being in the EU
- happymellon 7y agoBut what would be the pro?
- nodex-alex 7y agoApart from not being part of the beurocracsy, corruption and propping up a failed experiment alongside Germany and France?
- happymellon 7y agoAh, okay that makes sense. I hadn't heard of any corruption in the EU, do you have examples?
- nicky0 7y agoMoving to a more positive relationship with Europe.
- happymellon 7y agoWhat do you mean by this? How would Brexit make the relationship positive, because the UK doesn't want the same things as the EU so they won't be in conflict?
- nicky0 7y agoThe UK has always been a reluctant partner holding back EU ambitions of ever closer union. The EU will now be much freer to pursue federalism. The UK will now be a friend and partner, but no longer in the dysfunctional relationship. It's like how divorced couples can often have a more positive relationship after the divorce than during the unhappy marriage. Not as close a relationship, but a more healthy one.
- kolleykibber 7y agoBut surely this can happen? It's clear social media marketing teams were used to go after the uneducated with slurs and memes in order to benefit the rich.
- nicky0 7y agoVoting Conservartive in this election was very much an informed choice for many. The alternative was voting in a marxist.
- Luc 7y agoThe real alternative was a coalition government, surely?
- rcarmo 7y agoWell, FWIW, there are a _lot_ of startups setting up offices in Portugal these days. Mostly as quasi-nearshoring, but many as a serious endeavor (CloudFlare is an example of the latter).
- SlowRobotAhead 7y agoThe tech cynicism that’s growing in me is just waiting to see if it was fakenews on Twitter, or Russian ads on Facebook, or Macedonian teens with clickbait, Nazis or something entirely new to blame these elections on. It seems there is always a “reason” to lose elections now. I don’t know when everything had to become a scandal and “well, it seems less people agree with me than it took to elect the side I preferred” became an unacceptable thought. Edit: even a thought about that thought is unacceptable to some here :)
- pintxo 7y agoI second the „meddling“ in elections part. If we accept the notion that it’s easily possible to manipulate the people into voting for whomever then the problem is not the meddling but the possibility of people being manipulated. As this means anyone could do this. I vote for a Marshall Plan for general education.
- byefruit 7y agoAs a Brit this is utterly heartbreaking. The Conservatives tried every trick in the book in the last parliament and fought a dirty campaign that has set an awful precedent for future politics in the UK. That remain-backing and second-ref parties actually got the majority of votes makes it even worse. First past the post is not fit for a modern democracy.
- golemotron 7y agoIt’s amazing to me that tech people can see that monoculture makes systems fragile in security yet long for it in geopolitics. Brexit should happen. Catalan independence should have too.
- JamesLefrere 7y agoThe EU is not like the USA. We can have regional independence/self-governance and international cooperation, prosperity and peace, without needing a controlling national structure. Britain is and always has been a European island. We’ll be back in the EU in a generation or less.
- PavlovsCat 7y agoI and many others can't wait to have you back. > No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friends or of thine own were; any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. -- John Donne
- golemotron 7y agoThe EU was a historical anomaly. A reaction to WW1 and WW2.
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