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I just let him have his beer

17 points by samclemens 7y ago

WordSkill 7y ago
Submissions to HN that link to content requiring registration should include, in the title, a warning of that.
- cgriswald 7y ago
  I'm not sure how this would work in practice. Many sites allow infrequent visitors to view content free of registration and charge; or have specific articles which do not require registration. Sites which require registration might work in reader mode, or with javascript disabled, or with some components not loaded. For these reasons and more a submitter may not know whether registration is required. In this particular instance, without your post I never would have known registration is required. Because, by whatever mechanism, I can read the entire article.
- Tomte 7y ago
  LRB is relatively benign, you get several free articles per month. And there aren't many LRB submissions to HN.
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  That's not the rule here. In fact the rule is that you should not complain about pay walls.
  - lostgame 7y ago
    It should not be against the rules to protest the posting of content which is not freely available on principle. I often speak up on this.
    - chrisseaton 7y ago
      But it is. If you don’t like this site’s rules go somewhere else like Reddit. The rules are what makes this place high quality in my opinion.
- HeyLaughingBoy 7y ago
  Is it really that difficult to hit the back button?
- m-p-3 7y ago
  I wish we could get some domains to be flagged with a possible paywall and put an emoji like these beside the domain name 🧱
cafard 7y ago
After WordSkill's comment, I feel sheepish about linking to the Washington Post, but here goes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/classic-stoner-not-so-fast/2015/11/02/9f0ed5aa-7db3-11e5-b575-d8dcfedb4ea1_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/classic-s... . I think the writer got it mostly correct.
- leftyted 7y ago
  The idea that a female character with negative traits is evidence of misogyny is silly. Stoner isn't misogynistic and this isn't an appropriate way to read novels. The writer argues that Stoner's attitude towards Walker, a student, is bullying when, in the novel, that student is presented as lazy and nihilistic. By invoking misogyny, the Post article is doing the same thing as Walker: offering up a facile objection instead of engaging. If literature is worth studying at all then it can't be dismissed by invoking "misogyny" or "questioning the usefulness of grammar".
  - pvg 7y ago
    The idea that a female character with negative traits is evidence of misogyny is silly. It would be but that's not the idea advanced in the article - the claim is that the wife is represented too absurdly negatively and the author supports this with, among other things, a reference to an exchange between Williams and his agent. The charge of misogyny is aimed at Williams, not Stoner.
mturmon 7y ago
Worth it for the block quote and thumbnail description of the theme of Butcher’s Crossing.
neonate 7y ago
http://archive.is/gPtYk http://archive.is/gPtYk

17 points by samclemens 7y ago

WordSkill 7y ago

Submissions to HN that link to content requiring registration should include, in the title, a warning of that.

cgriswald 7y ago
I'm not sure how this would work in practice. Many sites allow infrequent visitors to view content free of registration and charge; or have specific articles which do not require registration. Sites which require registration might work in reader mode, or with javascript disabled, or with some components not loaded. For these reasons and more a submitter may not know whether registration is required. In this particular instance, without your post I never would have known registration is required. Because, by whatever mechanism, I can read the entire article.
Tomte 7y ago
LRB is relatively benign, you get several free articles per month. And there aren't many LRB submissions to HN.
chrisseaton 7y ago
That's not the rule here. In fact the rule is that you should not complain about pay walls.
- lostgame 7y ago
  It should not be against the rules to protest the posting of content which is not freely available on principle. I often speak up on this.
  - chrisseaton 7y ago
    But it is. If you don’t like this site’s rules go somewhere else like Reddit. The rules are what makes this place high quality in my opinion.
HeyLaughingBoy 7y ago
Is it really that difficult to hit the back button?
m-p-3 7y ago
I wish we could get some domains to be flagged with a possible paywall and put an emoji like these beside the domain name 🧱

cafard 7y ago

After WordSkill's comment, I feel sheepish about linking to the Washington Post, but here goes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/classic-stoner-not-so-fast/2015/11/02/9f0ed5aa-7db3-11e5-b575-d8dcfedb4ea1_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/classic-s... . I think the writer got it mostly correct.

leftyted 7y ago
The idea that a female character with negative traits is evidence of misogyny is silly. Stoner isn't misogynistic and this isn't an appropriate way to read novels. The writer argues that Stoner's attitude towards Walker, a student, is bullying when, in the novel, that student is presented as lazy and nihilistic. By invoking misogyny, the Post article is doing the same thing as Walker: offering up a facile objection instead of engaging. If literature is worth studying at all then it can't be dismissed by invoking "misogyny" or "questioning the usefulness of grammar".
- pvg 7y ago
  The idea that a female character with negative traits is evidence of misogyny is silly. It would be but that's not the idea advanced in the article - the claim is that the wife is represented too absurdly negatively and the author supports this with, among other things, a reference to an exchange between Williams and his agent. The charge of misogyny is aimed at Williams, not Stoner.

mturmon 7y ago

Worth it for the block quote and thumbnail description of the theme of Butcher’s Crossing.

neonate 7y ago

http://archive.is/gPtYk http://archive.is/gPtYk