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FTC Weighs Seeking Injunction Against Facebook over How Its Apps Interact

71 points by t23 7y ago

neonate 7y ago
http://archive.is/FCE1L http://archive.is/FCE1L
s3r3nity 7y ago
Not sure I quite understand the argument against Facebook here, though I might just be missing something. The market for messaging apps is pretty saturated with competitors at the moment; if I didn't like their WhatsApp and Facebook accounts merging, for example, I could just bounce to iMessage / Kik / Snap / Telegram. Whether or not you agree / disagree with the security & user experience argument from FB (I personally can see both sides,) the low switching costs will always mean the user has quite a bit of power here.
- freehunter 7y ago
  "The users can just switch" doesn't actually work when the switching costs are high, and the switching costs for a social network are a lot higher than you are making it seem. If all of my friends are using WhatsApp, either I have to use it too or I have to convince everyone to switch to my preferred app just for my sake. And in the case of iMessage, I have to ask them to switch their phone too. If these systems could interoperate with each other it'd be different, but as-is, the switching costs are astronomical.
  - kimsant 7y ago
    if all my friends are using Whatsapp... if all the phones come with google apps that track me Do you see the difference? The cost of changing can be "social gravity" (Whatsapp, WeChat, Telegram... depends of country and environment) a cost of learning something new (from Windows to Mac or any Linux distribution)... but it shouldn't be structural enforcement via no alternative given at a reasonable price. That is called Android and Google but wait, the trend is Facebook now so lets just focus on if Instagram and Whatsapp merge a little more or less... Dump dump dump dump dump!!!
  - scarface74 7y ago
    So what should the government do? Tell all your friends not to use WhatsApp? How do you propose that you get interoperability and security? iMessage already interoperates with the standard phone messaging protocol - sms.
    - giancarlostoro 7y ago
      The benefit of iMessage is the encryption. Which SMS doesnt compare to that level of encryption used by Apple. Would rather iMessage be a paid for Android app. I woulda bought it but I might just switch phones altogether. Sick of Googles spying and political regime insanity (see Project Veritas).
- JoshTriplett 7y ago
  > if I didn't like their WhatsApp and Facebook accounts merging, for example, I could just bounce to iMessage / Kik / Snap / Telegram. > low switching costs Messaging services do not have low switching costs, for the same reason that Facebook itself does not have a low switching cost. People use the service that has their friends on it.
  - morty_s 7y ago
    This. As childish as it sounds, I know a few people that get left out of group chats because they’ll turn the whole thing green...
- RichardHeart 7y ago
  Switching costs are not low whatsoever. Good luck getting everyone you know to use a new platform for you. Further, I don't think you've supported "saturated" as a claim here.
rshnotsecure 7y ago
Over the last 2 months, I've noticed Facebook has almost completely stopped responding to any vulnerability finds or bug bounty tickets submitted. It's gotten really bad. For instance, right now all 70,000,000 of the Facebook users in Vietnam have their information posted online on an open web server. I am not going to post it just yet in the last hope that someone from FB will reach out to me, but the info is their along with their IMEI number, cell phone number, information on what ads they've seen and clicked on, etc. For some users there are absolutely private messages, it appears to be only for Muslims in Vietnam though (so not all nor am I saying all). Until yesterday, the S3 bucket https://whatsapp-messages.s3.amazonaws.com https://whatsapp-messages.s3.amazonaws.com was open. You can search CNAME records if you have a SecurityTrails subscription, and this bucket belongs to a certain FB contractor. In fairness it could have been something known as "Domain Shadowing" whereby you secretly hack a groups subdomain records for evading firewall purposes, but in that case the argument still stands. It had over 13,000 pictures from various Latin American police departments that change every few days while I tracked it. NOTE: FB Security ppl, my email is in my profile. EDIT: This is a very good paper from Tsinghua University in 2016 on Domain Shadowing, which more people should be aware of. Check your subdomains, and make sure you use the free option in SecurityTrails to do it. Passive DNS checks aren't enough here: https://faculty.sites.uci.edu/zhouli/files/2018/09/ccs17.pdf https://faculty.sites.uci.edu/zhouli/files/2018/09/ccs17.pdf
- spamfilter 7y ago
  I'm sorry, rshnotsecure but until you come up with those 5k words you promised about ProtonMail, CreditKarma and a huge list of others being fronts for spy agencies[1] your posts will only ever be titillating scuttlebutt for me. Last we heard you had the lounge room covered in butcher's paper, plotting it all out and gave your literal word that you'd post that "report" within 96 hours. That was 42 days ago. I have no idea if what you say about FB's server in Vietnam is true and I'm not here to argue with you. The pity is that you post about interesting things. But if making big claims with unshakeable evidence "to come" which never actually arrives is something that we deplore in our politicians and mainstream media, why let it creep in here? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21412052 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21412052
Gusen 7y ago
Schiff,Nadler,Mueller each raped & killed boys in Buffalo on the night of 14Jan2019, as Trump did earlier that morning. 'Impeachment' is an obstruction vehicle for keeping power, all are working together, Pelosi too. Full audio proving this entirely here, all three admit collusion with President \\On14th of January 2019 at about 11:23pm: Jerrold Nadler steps up to take his turn during the Illuminati "rape party". Nadler rapes and kills three boys in under a minute, however, there was a problem. One of the boys was already dead, so he requests a new one. Jerrold Nadler then requests another ten boys. Donald Reeves: "That's a million dollar request". Nadler responds: " ...you guys will cover it. I'm gonna keep Trump in power" (Trump raped & killed a dozen boys 6:30-7:00 am that morning (Jan14). By the time Nadler is finished, he had raped and killed 24 boys. Audio pulled from the video linked below: 14JanCh4_2300-0000.mp3 - Nadler starts at about twenty minutes in. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kuvv2Zmbw5Jw7onbRI2hCZ0M8FU66GuU/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kuvv2Zmbw5Jw7onbRI2hCZ0M8FU... 14JanCh2_2304-2359.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nofp5xF-aXXcCSgQVwj30KlzE9WLr1x1/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nofp5xF-aXXcCSgQVwj30KlzE9W... 14JanCh3_2302-2359.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wdDIsxfsX7xTBIBZYzV4iE4xEdgmwy5l/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wdDIsxfsX7xTBIBZYzV4iE4xEdg... Further disclosure by Porter about 24:47 in: Oblivious tenant Brian Schlenker comments on something unrelated to the ongoing events: "..call the fucking police...", to which is responded with: "...that's funny because we own the police (Buffalo Police Department), we pay them $6 million dollars a month." 19 minutes in Fred Norris, formerly of the Howard Stern show, is acknowledged on the system. At 19:47 in Porter admits that Brian Schlenker will be the owner of this footage should it be discovered. After Nadler, Ralph Nader is next in line. January 15, 2019 00:20: Special Counsel Robert Mueller takes his turn at the Illuminati "rape party" in Buffalo, New York. Mueller ra[es and kills twelve boys. About roughly 00:55 Representative Adam Schiff who will also be leading an impeachment effort, also requests the same deal as Nadler, and then tries to make a case for getting more than Nadler and Mueller. Adam Schiff rapes and kills three boys. Mueller and Schiff all receive $3 billion dollars each for joing the group. Nadler came back to witness these two rape to make sure they were all bound together under one purpose: keep Trump in power, and also to confirm the payments to each, including his $10.5 billion dollar payment. Between the Mueller and Schiff turns, the group issues orders for ten women to begin prepping more boys for rape. They are former friends and family of Brian Schlenker, and also some long standing Illuminati members who include Elsa Hosk, Gigi & Bella Hadid. Again, the "prep" these females engage means they perform oral sex on the boys’ penis and anus, as a child rapist like Henry Porter would, while trying to remove fecal matter from the boy prior to handing them over to be raped and subsequently murdered. Just a head's up, my voice is scattered throughout all of the footage within the links posted for this update, and is quite loud relative to the desired content at times. Audio links below: 15JanCh4_000-100.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZEDJR6jb6ARpcNnWJTokBUKb2J2OQnwZ/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZEDJR6jb6ARpcNnWJTokBUKb2J2... 15JanCh4_100-200.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/173aYWvWHH4VGht1h_2nM0IMdw746LeCL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/173aYWvWHH4VGht1h_2nM0IMdw74... 15JanCh2_000-100.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EsmHfguwBuo2PbavJ1WYyhiML62tgCkj/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EsmHfguwBuo2PbavJ1WYyhiML62... 15JanCh2_100-200.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZnWRnBryalNQu2yJmfJUdS2pA_rGSFH/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZnWRnBryalNQu2yJmfJUdS2pA_... 15JanCh3_000-100.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zsEwYC875wQu6btsSbNznHsJinxYHxUL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zsEwYC875wQu6btsSbNznHsJinx... 15JanCh3_100-200.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/15UAY2er2LdTViXG4azy_bc_oQUzvLpFh/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/15UAY2er2LdTViXG4azy_bc_oQUz... //Full 134 page PDF [update10.Dec.2019]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... //This post will be censored when this account logs off, the posts are "shadow banned". They try to make it look like the post is live, but it is not. Here is an example. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJedYKz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJ... \\Previously: President of the United States Donald Trump rapes and kills 15 boys in Buffalo, NY on January 10, 2019. This is audio of the event from 10 Jan 2019. Download the mp3 and put on headphones, and turn the volume all the way up. 10JanCh3_1255-1557.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY-kSg2/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY... This is audio of the President, Donald J. Trump, demanding a four billion dollar bribe from child rapists to “take a blind eye” on January 3, 2019. Trump becomes one on January 14th, 2019. Also, here is the big reason the major networks do not report any of it. //Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Trump is on a call from with Henry Porter and Gigi Hadid. See page 63 in the PDF. Bribe demand at 10:18am: 3JanCh3_900-1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77YG0Vr/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77... //President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, rapes and kills his first boy at 6:32am. Video link below: 14JanCh3_600.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJNbqZW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJ... 14JanCh2_600-700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJL-IZ_/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJ... //On January 18th, 2019 at 8:31am (see page 8) Trump acknowledges the four billion dollar bribe and says: "Let's get it done and get to fucking some kids." Video link below: 18JanCh3_725-.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4TwoNmY1h/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4Two... //A big reason this has not been reported by the major news networks is right here. Lester Holt of NBC Nightly News, apparently a member of the Illuminati since the 980's, along with ABC Nightly News lead anchor David Muir, stop over to the Porter studio in Buffalo on January 14th, 2019 at 5:00am. They both rape and kill about two dozen boys by 6:01 am. Muir starts around 5:14 am, then Holt about 5:38 am. Multi-billionaire Rupert Murdoch, owner of News Corp & Fox Corporation, takes his turn after Holt. Video links below: 14JanCh3_500- 601.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX3o7UL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX... 14JanCh2_530- 600.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1RwidV/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1... Adding to the reason this is not picked up by the media, CBS and Viacom owner Sumner Redstone an Leslie Moonves rape boys following the President. 14JanCh3_700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXaB4aI0/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXa... 14JanCh2_700-800.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWYKfRDp/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWY... //This is the tip of the cberg. //134 page PDF [updated 10.Dec.2019]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ...
rickncliff 7y ago
If it got to that and it's not some sort of WSJ attempt to advocate for this sort of thing, facebook must fight it tooth and nail, and stop these attempts at governmental micromanagement once and for all. It's suspect that they are going after tech companies which are national treasures but are enemies to corporate media, it's strange that this sort of action isn't being considered against actual malicious monopolists that the press isn't constantly attacking. No one is suggesting going after disney for instance even though they have that market cornered.
- egdod 7y ago
  “National treasures” lol. And Disney isn’t quite as consumer-hostile as FB.
  - rickncliff 7y ago
    How is FB "consumer-hostile"? You'll have to pay a lot more to watch all that Disney IP soon enough.
    - dessant 7y ago
      Facebook has been doing everything in their power to gradually erode people's privacy, so their business model is strongly consumer-hostile, unless contributing to the erosion of civil liberties and human rights isn't considered hostile towards people. Disney's attack on culture through the lobbying of copyright extensions is not an excuse for what Facebook is doing. Both companies need to be dealt with, and we can do our part by not defending them when there's an opportunity to call them out.
      - tzs 7y ago
        > Disney's attack on culture through the lobbying of copyright extensions Nitpick: that should be "a copyright extension", not "copyright extensions". There have only been two copyright extensions that have affected Disney: the Copyright Act of 1976 and the Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998. I haven't been able to find any evidence that they lobbied for the 1976 Act. Probably because there would have been no need for lobbying, as the 1976 Act had near universal support. That's because it was a major overhaul of US copyright law, which went a long way toward making US copyright law compatible with the Berne Convention. (There was still a lot to do to actually allow the US to join the Berne Convention--those final changes were in the Berne Implementation Act of 1988). I'm not sure how the popular notion that Disney is constantly getting copyright terms extended arose.
kimsant 7y ago
Alphabet knows where am I and how I move at any time Facebook knows what I like and would potentially buy or vote for The 1st invades my privacy. The 2nd is a tool that can manipulate population ( data => population profiling => customization of a marketing message ) I guess politics care much more about the 2nd
batoure 7y ago
The timing of some of this feels disingenuous... it wasn’t that long ago Facebook completed their graph API migration... functionally their is not a “platform separation” any more their are just different labels on Facebook APIs this change is now heavily reflected in dev tools... Facebook will simply argue that any disentanglement would have high impact to business and move on with their day. The people who work for the government and do this stuff know enough about how platforms work to know that the time to do this was over a year ago before this huge shift was locked in.
pixelbath 7y ago
In my opinion, the ship has already sailed for the FTC to have any say in how Facebook interoperates its own applications. If they were truly concerned about a monopoly on social media, the sale of those apps should have been blocked in the first place. What is the point of telling Facebook not to make their apps interact with each other? Are they thinking Facebook employees can't see the databases of their other apps? Is the FTC going to pretend they know anything about how the databases are supposed to operate? What about one big database with an App field; would they know if Facebook did that? What about multiple databases on the same server; is that an antitrust violation? The entire rationale for looking at Facebook now just seems like going after an easy target. Either evaluate the antitrust arguments on their own merit and break those apps off Facebook, or leave it alone.

71 points by t23 7y ago

http://archive.is/FCE1L http://archive.is/FCE1L

Not sure I quite understand the argument against Facebook here, though I might just be missing something. The market for messaging apps is pretty saturated with competitors at the moment; if I didn't like their WhatsApp and Facebook accounts merging, for example, I could just bounce to iMessage / Kik / Snap / Telegram. Whether or not you agree / disagree with the security & user experience argument from FB (I personally can see both sides,) the low switching costs will always mean the user has quite a bit of power here.

freehunter 7y ago
"The users can just switch" doesn't actually work when the switching costs are high, and the switching costs for a social network are a lot higher than you are making it seem. If all of my friends are using WhatsApp, either I have to use it too or I have to convince everyone to switch to my preferred app just for my sake. And in the case of iMessage, I have to ask them to switch their phone too. If these systems could interoperate with each other it'd be different, but as-is, the switching costs are astronomical.
- kimsant 7y ago
  if all my friends are using Whatsapp... if all the phones come with google apps that track me Do you see the difference? The cost of changing can be "social gravity" (Whatsapp, WeChat, Telegram... depends of country and environment) a cost of learning something new (from Windows to Mac or any Linux distribution)... but it shouldn't be structural enforcement via no alternative given at a reasonable price. That is called Android and Google but wait, the trend is Facebook now so lets just focus on if Instagram and Whatsapp merge a little more or less... Dump dump dump dump dump!!!
- scarface74 7y ago
  So what should the government do? Tell all your friends not to use WhatsApp? How do you propose that you get interoperability and security? iMessage already interoperates with the standard phone messaging protocol - sms.
  - giancarlostoro 7y ago
    The benefit of iMessage is the encryption. Which SMS doesnt compare to that level of encryption used by Apple. Would rather iMessage be a paid for Android app. I woulda bought it but I might just switch phones altogether. Sick of Googles spying and political regime insanity (see Project Veritas).
JoshTriplett 7y ago
> if I didn't like their WhatsApp and Facebook accounts merging, for example, I could just bounce to iMessage / Kik / Snap / Telegram. > low switching costs Messaging services do not have low switching costs, for the same reason that Facebook itself does not have a low switching cost. People use the service that has their friends on it.
- morty_s 7y ago
  This. As childish as it sounds, I know a few people that get left out of group chats because they’ll turn the whole thing green...
RichardHeart 7y ago
Switching costs are not low whatsoever. Good luck getting everyone you know to use a new platform for you. Further, I don't think you've supported "saturated" as a claim here.

rshnotsecure 7y ago

Over the last 2 months, I've noticed Facebook has almost completely stopped responding to any vulnerability finds or bug bounty tickets submitted. It's gotten really bad. For instance, right now all 70,000,000 of the Facebook users in Vietnam have their information posted online on an open web server. I am not going to post it just yet in the last hope that someone from FB will reach out to me, but the info is their along with their IMEI number, cell phone number, information on what ads they've seen and clicked on, etc. For some users there are absolutely private messages, it appears to be only for Muslims in Vietnam though (so not all nor am I saying all). Until yesterday, the S3 bucket https://whatsapp-messages.s3.amazonaws.com https://whatsapp-messages.s3.amazonaws.com was open. You can search CNAME records if you have a SecurityTrails subscription, and this bucket belongs to a certain FB contractor. In fairness it could have been something known as "Domain Shadowing" whereby you secretly hack a groups subdomain records for evading firewall purposes, but in that case the argument still stands. It had over 13,000 pictures from various Latin American police departments that change every few days while I tracked it. NOTE: FB Security ppl, my email is in my profile. EDIT: This is a very good paper from Tsinghua University in 2016 on Domain Shadowing, which more people should be aware of. Check your subdomains, and make sure you use the free option in SecurityTrails to do it. Passive DNS checks aren't enough here: https://faculty.sites.uci.edu/zhouli/files/2018/09/ccs17.pdf https://faculty.sites.uci.edu/zhouli/files/2018/09/ccs17.pdf

spamfilter 7y ago
I'm sorry, rshnotsecure but until you come up with those 5k words you promised about ProtonMail, CreditKarma and a huge list of others being fronts for spy agencies[1] your posts will only ever be titillating scuttlebutt for me. Last we heard you had the lounge room covered in butcher's paper, plotting it all out and gave your literal word that you'd post that "report" within 96 hours. That was 42 days ago. I have no idea if what you say about FB's server in Vietnam is true and I'm not here to argue with you. The pity is that you post about interesting things. But if making big claims with unshakeable evidence "to come" which never actually arrives is something that we deplore in our politicians and mainstream media, why let it creep in here? [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21412052 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21412052

Gusen 7y ago

Schiff,Nadler,Mueller each raped & killed boys in Buffalo on the night of 14Jan2019, as Trump did earlier that morning. 'Impeachment' is an obstruction vehicle for keeping power, all are working together, Pelosi too. Full audio proving this entirely here, all three admit collusion with President \\On14th of January 2019 at about 11:23pm: Jerrold Nadler steps up to take his turn during the Illuminati "rape party". Nadler rapes and kills three boys in under a minute, however, there was a problem. One of the boys was already dead, so he requests a new one. Jerrold Nadler then requests another ten boys. Donald Reeves: "That's a million dollar request". Nadler responds: " ...you guys will cover it. I'm gonna keep Trump in power" (Trump raped & killed a dozen boys 6:30-7:00 am that morning (Jan14). By the time Nadler is finished, he had raped and killed 24 boys. Audio pulled from the video linked below: 14JanCh4_2300-0000.mp3 - Nadler starts at about twenty minutes in. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kuvv2Zmbw5Jw7onbRI2hCZ0M8FU66GuU/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kuvv2Zmbw5Jw7onbRI2hCZ0M8FU... 14JanCh2_2304-2359.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nofp5xF-aXXcCSgQVwj30KlzE9WLr1x1/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nofp5xF-aXXcCSgQVwj30KlzE9W... 14JanCh3_2302-2359.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wdDIsxfsX7xTBIBZYzV4iE4xEdgmwy5l/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wdDIsxfsX7xTBIBZYzV4iE4xEdg... Further disclosure by Porter about 24:47 in: Oblivious tenant Brian Schlenker comments on something unrelated to the ongoing events: "..call the fucking police...", to which is responded with: "...that's funny because we own the police (Buffalo Police Department), we pay them $6 million dollars a month." 19 minutes in Fred Norris, formerly of the Howard Stern show, is acknowledged on the system. At 19:47 in Porter admits that Brian Schlenker will be the owner of this footage should it be discovered. After Nadler, Ralph Nader is next in line. January 15, 2019 00:20: Special Counsel Robert Mueller takes his turn at the Illuminati "rape party" in Buffalo, New York. Mueller ra[es and kills twelve boys. About roughly 00:55 Representative Adam Schiff who will also be leading an impeachment effort, also requests the same deal as Nadler, and then tries to make a case for getting more than Nadler and Mueller. Adam Schiff rapes and kills three boys. Mueller and Schiff all receive $3 billion dollars each for joing the group. Nadler came back to witness these two rape to make sure they were all bound together under one purpose: keep Trump in power, and also to confirm the payments to each, including his $10.5 billion dollar payment. Between the Mueller and Schiff turns, the group issues orders for ten women to begin prepping more boys for rape. They are former friends and family of Brian Schlenker, and also some long standing Illuminati members who include Elsa Hosk, Gigi & Bella Hadid. Again, the "prep" these females engage means they perform oral sex on the boys’ penis and anus, as a child rapist like Henry Porter would, while trying to remove fecal matter from the boy prior to handing them over to be raped and subsequently murdered. Just a head's up, my voice is scattered throughout all of the footage within the links posted for this update, and is quite loud relative to the desired content at times. Audio links below: 15JanCh4_000-100.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZEDJR6jb6ARpcNnWJTokBUKb2J2OQnwZ/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZEDJR6jb6ARpcNnWJTokBUKb2J2... 15JanCh4_100-200.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/173aYWvWHH4VGht1h_2nM0IMdw746LeCL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/173aYWvWHH4VGht1h_2nM0IMdw74... 15JanCh2_000-100.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EsmHfguwBuo2PbavJ1WYyhiML62tgCkj/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EsmHfguwBuo2PbavJ1WYyhiML62... 15JanCh2_100-200.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZnWRnBryalNQu2yJmfJUdS2pA_rGSFH/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZnWRnBryalNQu2yJmfJUdS2pA_... 15JanCh3_000-100.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zsEwYC875wQu6btsSbNznHsJinxYHxUL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zsEwYC875wQu6btsSbNznHsJinx... 15JanCh3_100-200.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/15UAY2er2LdTViXG4azy_bc_oQUzvLpFh/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/15UAY2er2LdTViXG4azy_bc_oQUz... //Full 134 page PDF [update10.Dec.2019]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ... //This post will be censored when this account logs off, the posts are "shadow banned". They try to make it look like the post is live, but it is not. Here is an example. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJedYKz/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zxS8JESoIg7uxRkUgdptMsF6SuJ... \\Previously: President of the United States Donald Trump rapes and kills 15 boys in Buffalo, NY on January 10, 2019. This is audio of the event from 10 Jan 2019. Download the mp3 and put on headphones, and turn the volume all the way up. 10JanCh3_1255-1557.mp3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY-kSg2/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/18lTt_YKFEtsV6YDNzXFVQYLkStY... This is audio of the President, Donald J. Trump, demanding a four billion dollar bribe from child rapists to “take a blind eye” on January 3, 2019. Trump becomes one on January 14th, 2019. Also, here is the big reason the major networks do not report any of it. //Download the video, turn the volume all the way up and put head phones on. Note: there is not much to see in the video, the audio is picked up from another [illegal surveillance] system. Trump is on a call from with Henry Porter and Gigi Hadid. See page 63 in the PDF. Bribe demand at 10:18am: 3JanCh3_900-1100.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77YG0Vr/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Grdr8xF2psKNsuYlEnl9dIRV-77... //President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, rapes and kills his first boy at 6:32am. Video link below: 14JanCh3_600.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJNbqZW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/154QvA5hwyHGYIVXtod1ZbsOHFUJ... 14JanCh2_600-700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJL-IZ_/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/19UkqmnMwZiWy7xxWngltqwoKLTJ... //On January 18th, 2019 at 8:31am (see page 8) Trump acknowledges the four billion dollar bribe and says: "Let's get it done and get to fucking some kids." Video link below: 18JanCh3_725-.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4TwoNmY1h/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bVTcGq5Z9oOSAiOQcKYrmuK4Two... //A big reason this has not been reported by the major news networks is right here. Lester Holt of NBC Nightly News, apparently a member of the Illuminati since the 980's, along with ABC Nightly News lead anchor David Muir, stop over to the Porter studio in Buffalo on January 14th, 2019 at 5:00am. They both rape and kill about two dozen boys by 6:01 am. Muir starts around 5:14 am, then Holt about 5:38 am. Multi-billionaire Rupert Murdoch, owner of News Corp & Fox Corporation, takes his turn after Holt. Video links below: 14JanCh3_500- 601.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX3o7UL/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1i7NKepeyG_FfdQRrM7KsnFOZOOX... 14JanCh2_530- 600.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1RwidV/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZzgN5ilI7ToroU5cfqMaL4o2u1... Adding to the reason this is not picked up by the media, CBS and Viacom owner Sumner Redstone an Leslie Moonves rape boys following the President. 14JanCh3_700.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXaB4aI0/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/10XDw6x3ldnnQiq7oIjpdYVENyXa... 14JanCh2_700-800.avi https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWYKfRDp/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NS_e6AzEZ05wnfljkGMETGU5CWY... //This is the tip of the cberg. //134 page PDF [updated 10.Dec.2019]: FBI_FinalDraft_26Jul2019_BSchlenker.pdf https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJc9cGk/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Sj9EN_pHmicKS6rFQlmk67knMdJ...

rickncliff 7y ago

If it got to that and it's not some sort of WSJ attempt to advocate for this sort of thing, facebook must fight it tooth and nail, and stop these attempts at governmental micromanagement once and for all. It's suspect that they are going after tech companies which are national treasures but are enemies to corporate media, it's strange that this sort of action isn't being considered against actual malicious monopolists that the press isn't constantly attacking. No one is suggesting going after disney for instance even though they have that market cornered.

egdod 7y ago
“National treasures” lol. And Disney isn’t quite as consumer-hostile as FB.
- rickncliff 7y ago
  How is FB "consumer-hostile"? You'll have to pay a lot more to watch all that Disney IP soon enough.
  - dessant 7y ago
    Facebook has been doing everything in their power to gradually erode people's privacy, so their business model is strongly consumer-hostile, unless contributing to the erosion of civil liberties and human rights isn't considered hostile towards people. Disney's attack on culture through the lobbying of copyright extensions is not an excuse for what Facebook is doing. Both companies need to be dealt with, and we can do our part by not defending them when there's an opportunity to call them out.
    - tzs 7y ago
      > Disney's attack on culture through the lobbying of copyright extensions Nitpick: that should be "a copyright extension", not "copyright extensions". There have only been two copyright extensions that have affected Disney: the Copyright Act of 1976 and the Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998. I haven't been able to find any evidence that they lobbied for the 1976 Act. Probably because there would have been no need for lobbying, as the 1976 Act had near universal support. That's because it was a major overhaul of US copyright law, which went a long way toward making US copyright law compatible with the Berne Convention. (There was still a lot to do to actually allow the US to join the Berne Convention--those final changes were in the Berne Implementation Act of 1988). I'm not sure how the popular notion that Disney is constantly getting copyright terms extended arose.

kimsant 7y ago

Alphabet knows where am I and how I move at any time Facebook knows what I like and would potentially buy or vote for The 1st invades my privacy. The 2nd is a tool that can manipulate population ( data => population profiling => customization of a marketing message ) I guess politics care much more about the 2nd

batoure 7y ago

The timing of some of this feels disingenuous... it wasn’t that long ago Facebook completed their graph API migration... functionally their is not a “platform separation” any more their are just different labels on Facebook APIs this change is now heavily reflected in dev tools... Facebook will simply argue that any disentanglement would have high impact to business and move on with their day. The people who work for the government and do this stuff know enough about how platforms work to know that the time to do this was over a year ago before this huge shift was locked in.

pixelbath 7y ago

In my opinion, the ship has already sailed for the FTC to have any say in how Facebook interoperates its own applications. If they were truly concerned about a monopoly on social media, the sale of those apps should have been blocked in the first place. What is the point of telling Facebook not to make their apps interact with each other? Are they thinking Facebook employees can't see the databases of their other apps? Is the FTC going to pretend they know anything about how the databases are supposed to operate? What about one big database with an App field; would they know if Facebook did that? What about multiple databases on the same server; is that an antitrust violation? The entire rationale for looking at Facebook now just seems like going after an easy target. Either evaluate the antitrust arguments on their own merit and break those apps off Facebook, or leave it alone.