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"A situation where an owner does not have that right is essentially claiming that the device is leased rather than owned." Owning the device is not the same as
by whoisjuan 7y ago
"A situation where an owner does not have that right is essentially claiming that the device is leased rather than owned."
Owning the device is not the same as having a service that enables the device. Especially when it is a device that relies on third-party networks. There's a cost in that. That's like saying that Apple needs to give me data to use my iPhone just because I own the iPhone and I pay them for it. Those are separate concepts.
Honda can totally deny the customer access to the data associated with this service. The way I see it there are two possibilities here:
1) He reports that his car was stolen to law-enforcement and they, within the scope of their duties, can go and ask Honda to release this information. That's fair.
2) He contacts Honda saying that his car was stolen and that he already reported this to the police. He asks for the location data because he wants to know where is the car now. He doesn't want to wait for the police to do their job. They deny it because he doesn't pay for this service. They will, however, honor the situation described in #1. That's also fair.
- Glyptodon 7y agoNo, it's like saying Apple needs to give me the information required to use a phone with a network/MVNO of my choosing, rather than Apple saying "we'll pretend your phone doesn't exist unless you buy an ATT subscription." Edit: your comment got updated. I agree Honda can deny access to the data, but they shouldn't be able to deny the information needed to interface with his car via a 3rd party system instead.
- seiferteric 7y agoSays who? He was free to install his own tracking system if he didn't want to use the manufactures. This sounds more like someone being upset at not getting a payout when their house burned down after they passed on fire insurance.
- jaywalk 7y agoYou act like "the information needed to interface with his car via a 3rd party system" exists. It almost certainly doesn't, because they'd have to specifically develop their system to support that use case. And there's no reason that they would.