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I've had a lot of fun tweaking this setting in Cities:Skylines. There's a user-written mod called Traffic Manager Presidential Edition which lets you enable som

I've had a lot of fun tweaking this setting in Cities:Skylines. There's a user-written mod called Traffic Manager Presidential Edition which lets you enable some (but not all) bad behaviors. The principle one is entering an intersection that they don't have room to leave, so they're still there when the signal changes and block the cross direction. (Is this AKA blocking the box? That sounds like a regional term.) This is needed to induce most forms of gridlock. I'd love if it had more support for jaywalking and vehicles stopping in travel lanes with their flashers on. (And then I'd love if I had a lightning-bolt tool where I could just smite them from on high. There probably is a mod for that, actually.)

squeaky-clean 7y ago
The feature, for anyone curious what the other rules it'll break are. [0] TMPE is such a great mod for improving the game's traffic simulation. I've spent a lot of time playing with timed traffic light systems. Cities Skylines will also automatically despawn vehicles to prevent massive gridlock that will break your city, and TMPE can disable this assistance for a truly difficult game. [0] https://tmpe.viathinksoft.com/wiki/index.php?title=Reckless_driving https://tmpe.viathinksoft.com/wiki/index.php?title=Reckless_...
wizzwizz4 7y ago
I still don't understand the concept of "jaywalking". Is there something wrong with crossing the road in the US?
- setr 7y ago
  yes cars have dedicated lanes for driving bikes have dedicated lanes for biking legs have dedicated lanes for walking do NOT cross the lanes
  - scarejunba 7y ago
    Interestingly, the UK doesn't have these laws and has lower deaths per passenger mile.
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - sixbrx 7y ago
    Just a warning for those visiting the US - crosswalks will only give you a false sense of security in many parts of the the country (bigger cities possibly excepted), many drivers pay 0 attention to them. Had a car narrowly miss me last week in a crosswalk, and honked at me as it whizzed by. I've never witnessed any enforcement of these kinds of violations against the drivers, either.
    - kqr 7y ago
      Honking could also mean "I'm sorry." When you're locked in a car, you have very limited forms of expression...
      - yellowapple 7y ago
        I really wish cars came with PA systems installed. There are so many situations I encounter every day where it'd be useful: - "Turn on your lights" - "Move over" - "Thanks" - "Sorry" - (incoherent obscenities) - "Have a nice day" I'm seriously considering picking up some programmable LED sign and wiring these sorts of messages to buttons I can press while driving.
        kqr 7y ago
        This is one of the many things I miss from cycling when driving a car: being able to just match speeds with someone else and hold a conversation over something that happened.
- xsmasher 7y ago
  In the US, you can generally only cross at crosswalks (for sections of roads that have crosswalks,) and only when the signal is in your favor if there is a signal. Beyond that it decays into a bunch of state and local laws. You can get a ticket in many places for crossing at the wrong spot, or agains the signals, even if you didn't inconvenience anyone.
  - wizzwizz4 7y ago
    I take it that (most of) the US doesn't have pedestrian right of way, then? That's concerning; it suggests a whole host of other things around road culture, most of which are worrying. For instance, I predict that drivers are likely to pay less attention to the road, and that collisions with pedestrians are more lethal when they do occur. I'm starting to see why the stereotypical USian drives everywhere, even in small areas.
    - xsmasher 7y ago
      Pedestrians have the right of way in the situations I mentioned, but not when "jaywalking." You're not wrong about the system heavily favoring driver's convenience; and when drivers break the law (even if they injure someone) the punishments are light.
      - wizzwizz4 7y ago
        According to the Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking): > Originally, the legal rule was that "all persons have an equal right in the highway, and that in exercising the right each shall take due care not to injure other users of the way".[8] In time, however, streets became the province of motorised traffic, both practically and legally. Automobile interests in the US took up the cause of labeling and scorning jaywalkers in the 1910s and early 1920s, by then the earlier term of "jay driver" was declining in use.[9][10] The earliest citation in the Oxford English Dictionary follows in 1917. [8]: Miller McClintock for the Chicago Association of Commerce, "Report and Recommendations of the Metropolitan Street Traffic Survey", p. 133, quoted by Norton, Fighting Traffic, on p. 289. [9]: Norton, Fighting Traffic, pp. 79-79. [10]: Peter D. Norton, "Street Rivals: Jaywalking and the Invention of the Motor Age Street", Technology and Culture 48 (April 2007), 331-359 (342). doi:10.1353/tech.2007.0085

squeaky-clean 7y ago

The feature, for anyone curious what the other rules it'll break are. [0] TMPE is such a great mod for improving the game's traffic simulation. I've spent a lot of time playing with timed traffic light systems. Cities Skylines will also automatically despawn vehicles to prevent massive gridlock that will break your city, and TMPE can disable this assistance for a truly difficult game. [0] https://tmpe.viathinksoft.com/wiki/index.php?title=Reckless_driving https://tmpe.viathinksoft.com/wiki/index.php?title=Reckless_...

wizzwizz4 7y ago

I still don't understand the concept of "jaywalking". Is there something wrong with crossing the road in the US?

setr 7y ago
yes cars have dedicated lanes for driving bikes have dedicated lanes for biking legs have dedicated lanes for walking do NOT cross the lanes
- scarejunba 7y ago
  Interestingly, the UK doesn't have these laws and has lower deaths per passenger mile.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- sixbrx 7y ago
  Just a warning for those visiting the US - crosswalks will only give you a false sense of security in many parts of the the country (bigger cities possibly excepted), many drivers pay 0 attention to them. Had a car narrowly miss me last week in a crosswalk, and honked at me as it whizzed by. I've never witnessed any enforcement of these kinds of violations against the drivers, either.
  - kqr 7y ago
    Honking could also mean "I'm sorry." When you're locked in a car, you have very limited forms of expression...
    - yellowapple 7y ago
      I really wish cars came with PA systems installed. There are so many situations I encounter every day where it'd be useful: - "Turn on your lights" - "Move over" - "Thanks" - "Sorry" - (incoherent obscenities) - "Have a nice day" I'm seriously considering picking up some programmable LED sign and wiring these sorts of messages to buttons I can press while driving.
      - kqr 7y ago
        This is one of the many things I miss from cycling when driving a car: being able to just match speeds with someone else and hold a conversation over something that happened.
xsmasher 7y ago
In the US, you can generally only cross at crosswalks (for sections of roads that have crosswalks,) and only when the signal is in your favor if there is a signal. Beyond that it decays into a bunch of state and local laws. You can get a ticket in many places for crossing at the wrong spot, or agains the signals, even if you didn't inconvenience anyone.
- wizzwizz4 7y ago
  I take it that (most of) the US doesn't have pedestrian right of way, then? That's concerning; it suggests a whole host of other things around road culture, most of which are worrying. For instance, I predict that drivers are likely to pay less attention to the road, and that collisions with pedestrians are more lethal when they do occur. I'm starting to see why the stereotypical USian drives everywhere, even in small areas.
  - xsmasher 7y ago
    Pedestrians have the right of way in the situations I mentioned, but not when "jaywalking." You're not wrong about the system heavily favoring driver's convenience; and when drivers break the law (even if they injure someone) the punishments are light.
    - wizzwizz4 7y ago
      According to the Wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaywalking): > Originally, the legal rule was that "all persons have an equal right in the highway, and that in exercising the right each shall take due care not to injure other users of the way".[8] In time, however, streets became the province of motorised traffic, both practically and legally. Automobile interests in the US took up the cause of labeling and scorning jaywalkers in the 1910s and early 1920s, by then the earlier term of "jay driver" was declining in use.[9][10] The earliest citation in the Oxford English Dictionary follows in 1917. [8]: Miller McClintock for the Chicago Association of Commerce, "Report and Recommendations of the Metropolitan Street Traffic Survey", p. 133, quoted by Norton, Fighting Traffic, on p. 289. [9]: Norton, Fighting Traffic, pp. 79-79. [10]: Peter D. Norton, "Street Rivals: Jaywalking and the Invention of the Motor Age Street", Technology and Culture 48 (April 2007), 331-359 (342). doi:10.1353/tech.2007.0085