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When I bought an Oculus Quest, the fact that Oculus is owned by Facebook was slightly bothersome, but I honestly don't care a whole lot about this particular da

When I bought an Oculus Quest, the fact that Oculus is owned by Facebook was slightly bothersome, but I honestly don't care a whole lot about this particular data at this particular time (basically just game playing). It's Facebook Horizon[1] that's the worrisome thing. I'm pretty sure they're trying to build the OASIS from Ready Player One. [1]: https://www.oculus.com/facebookhorizon/ https://www.oculus.com/facebookhorizon/

LegitShady 7y ago
It's interesting that you say the only data being collected is what you play and when. Why do you think that? They have a lot of lose and movement data from you I bet theyve been spending a lot of time trying to develop inferences you can make from it.
- dangoor 7y ago
  Sure. They know I play Beat Saber and move pretty quickly while doing so. Maybe they'll try to sell me exercise stuff (though I rarely interact with Facebook and my browser setup is kind of aggressive when it comes to them). They also know I'm shorter than Darth Vader. They know the size of a couple of our rooms. I acknowledge there is data they can attempt to extract value from, but that data just doesn't concern me. As VR expands, particularly with Horizon, I will be a lot more wary.
  - LegitShady 7y ago
    >I acknowledge there is data they can attempt to extract value from, but that data just doesn't concern me This feels like a weird non computer person answer of "I don't understand why I should be worried about metadata it doesn't concern me"
    - dangoor 7y ago
      Let me put it another way: there are many things we choose to do which generate data and provide that data to various entities. We have to decide which data we're willing to share with whom and for what benefits. I know some people who, at least as of a couple of years ago, had dumbphones from which they'd remove the batteries when not in use so that their location couldn't be tracked. I have an iPhone. I've got Comcast internet at home and don't use a VPN. I have a Facebook account (which I access in Firefox only using the facebook container). I don't use gmail, and my primary browser isn't logged into Google and has various bits of tracking protection. So it's a pretty conscious choice. Maybe it's misguided, but I just think the data Facebook is getting from my Oculus Quest is pretty low value. Lower value than Likes, for example.
kick 7y ago
I mean, Zuckerberg's expressed a love for Ready Player One, so it's not far-fetched.

LegitShady 7y ago

It's interesting that you say the only data being collected is what you play and when. Why do you think that? They have a lot of lose and movement data from you I bet theyve been spending a lot of time trying to develop inferences you can make from it.

dangoor 7y ago
Sure. They know I play Beat Saber and move pretty quickly while doing so. Maybe they'll try to sell me exercise stuff (though I rarely interact with Facebook and my browser setup is kind of aggressive when it comes to them). They also know I'm shorter than Darth Vader. They know the size of a couple of our rooms. I acknowledge there is data they can attempt to extract value from, but that data just doesn't concern me. As VR expands, particularly with Horizon, I will be a lot more wary.
- LegitShady 7y ago
  >I acknowledge there is data they can attempt to extract value from, but that data just doesn't concern me This feels like a weird non computer person answer of "I don't understand why I should be worried about metadata it doesn't concern me"
  - dangoor 7y ago
    Let me put it another way: there are many things we choose to do which generate data and provide that data to various entities. We have to decide which data we're willing to share with whom and for what benefits. I know some people who, at least as of a couple of years ago, had dumbphones from which they'd remove the batteries when not in use so that their location couldn't be tracked. I have an iPhone. I've got Comcast internet at home and don't use a VPN. I have a Facebook account (which I access in Firefox only using the facebook container). I don't use gmail, and my primary browser isn't logged into Google and has various bits of tracking protection. So it's a pretty conscious choice. Maybe it's misguided, but I just think the data Facebook is getting from my Oculus Quest is pretty low value. Lower value than Likes, for example.

kick 7y ago

I mean, Zuckerberg's expressed a love for Ready Player One, so it's not far-fetched.