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That is the reason why in Europe this feature is strictly forbidden. Even blue light vehicles needed to be started explicitly with the driver in seat and the dr

That is the reason why in Europe this feature is strictly forbidden. Even blue light vehicles needed to be started explicitly with the driver in seat and the driver has to follow a procedure if he wants to leave and lock the car with engine running. In blue light vehicles a running engine will support the blue light to run longer like when the car is used as a blocker in an accident situation on a highway.

jfim 7y ago
For those confused by this post, blue light vehicles refer to emergency vehicles.
- NetOpWibby 7y ago
  Thank you
- DonHopkins 7y ago
  I was worried Kmart was selling cheap cars. Or blue lightbulbs for driving schoolbusses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ZxtRrWxOs&t=9s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ZxtRrWxOs&t=9s
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Reason077 7y ago
Tesla’s “summmon” feature, which allows the vehicle to be moved/parked remotely from an app, does work in Europe. However, it’s functionality is greatly reduced compared to the US version, and requires the operator to be standing nearby with a line of sight to the vehicle.
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- Piskvorrr 7y ago
  Oh, but does work and may work are two different beasts entirely, and Tesla specifically is notorious in disregard for the latter: "you could do this, but don't, wink wink wink."
  - Shivetya 7y ago
    as an owner of a model 3, this feature is not for the faint of heart and nothing I would dare use in a crowded parking lot if ever other than a party trick. for me it just shows how far off autonomous driving really is, I swear a roomba could navigate a parking lot better and quicker. currently the driving features are best confined to limited access roads; interstates
    - Reason077 7y ago
      Tesla uses OpenStreetMap data for Smart Summon. Some users have been able to improve its behaviour by mapping parking lots in OSM: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/dtx14k/tesla_servers_are_realtime_routing_smart_summon/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/dtx14k/tesla_s... (Per parent post, this is not applicable in Europe)
tjansen 7y ago
That's not true, at least in Germany. Idling your engine to heat up the car is not allowed (if you want to heat up your car you need an auxilliary heater which is sold as an option or as aftermarket modification), so most car brands do not offer remote start. But European Cadillacs offer that feature, and if you import an US model, you can also have it.
- teekert 7y ago
  What is the reason for this? I do this every morning the car has frozen over... I turn on the engine, heating, AC, windshield heating, back windows heating, "keep the air inside"-switch and go back inside for 3-5 min.
  - tjansen 7y ago
    Noise and emissions. A lot of people do it anyway, and the fine is usually 10 EUR, so not a big deal even in the unlikely case that you get caught.
    - maweki 7y ago
      This illustrates a problem with German traffic laws. It is often cheaper to park somewhere where it is prohibited than paying regular price for a spot.
      - asdff 7y ago
        People double park all over the world, not just Germany.
  - shifto 7y ago
    It's bad for the environment. We just have to scratch the ice off of the windows before we can leave.
    - SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago
      I always do this, but when I try to pull out of the drive the windows all steam up. Meaning I'm now sat in my car for 5 minutes waiting for them to clear anyway. (I'm very much against wiping the insides of the windows as the smearing can make driving at night very dazzling)
ryanlol 7y ago
Huh, I’m in Europe and can remotely move (not just start!) my German car with the key.
jve 7y ago
> That is the reason why in Europe this feature is strictly forbidden. Source please? I live in Europe and first time I hear such a thing. Yeah, I'v got my drivers license a while ago already, but no-one has mentioned not even whispered that such a law exists.

jfim 7y ago

For those confused by this post, blue light vehicles refer to emergency vehicles.

NetOpWibby 7y ago
Thank you
DonHopkins 7y ago
I was worried Kmart was selling cheap cars. Or blue lightbulbs for driving schoolbusses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ZxtRrWxOs&t=9s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ZxtRrWxOs&t=9s

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Reason077 7y ago

Tesla’s “summmon” feature, which allows the vehicle to be moved/parked remotely from an app, does work in Europe. However, it’s functionality is greatly reduced compared to the US version, and requires the operator to be standing nearby with a line of sight to the vehicle.

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Piskvorrr 7y ago
Oh, but does work and may work are two different beasts entirely, and Tesla specifically is notorious in disregard for the latter: "you could do this, but don't, wink wink wink."
- Shivetya 7y ago
  as an owner of a model 3, this feature is not for the faint of heart and nothing I would dare use in a crowded parking lot if ever other than a party trick. for me it just shows how far off autonomous driving really is, I swear a roomba could navigate a parking lot better and quicker. currently the driving features are best confined to limited access roads; interstates
  - Reason077 7y ago
    Tesla uses OpenStreetMap data for Smart Summon. Some users have been able to improve its behaviour by mapping parking lots in OSM: https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/dtx14k/tesla_servers_are_realtime_routing_smart_summon/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/dtx14k/tesla_s... (Per parent post, this is not applicable in Europe)

tjansen 7y ago

That's not true, at least in Germany. Idling your engine to heat up the car is not allowed (if you want to heat up your car you need an auxilliary heater which is sold as an option or as aftermarket modification), so most car brands do not offer remote start. But European Cadillacs offer that feature, and if you import an US model, you can also have it.

teekert 7y ago
What is the reason for this? I do this every morning the car has frozen over... I turn on the engine, heating, AC, windshield heating, back windows heating, "keep the air inside"-switch and go back inside for 3-5 min.
- tjansen 7y ago
  Noise and emissions. A lot of people do it anyway, and the fine is usually 10 EUR, so not a big deal even in the unlikely case that you get caught.
  - maweki 7y ago
    This illustrates a problem with German traffic laws. It is often cheaper to park somewhere where it is prohibited than paying regular price for a spot.
    - asdff 7y ago
      People double park all over the world, not just Germany.
- shifto 7y ago
  It's bad for the environment. We just have to scratch the ice off of the windows before we can leave.
  - SmellyGeekBoy 7y ago
    I always do this, but when I try to pull out of the drive the windows all steam up. Meaning I'm now sat in my car for 5 minutes waiting for them to clear anyway. (I'm very much against wiping the insides of the windows as the smearing can make driving at night very dazzling)

ryanlol 7y ago

Huh, I’m in Europe and can remotely move (not just start!) my German car with the key.

jve 7y ago

> That is the reason why in Europe this feature is strictly forbidden. Source please? I live in Europe and first time I hear such a thing. Yeah, I'v got my drivers license a while ago already, but no-one has mentioned not even whispered that such a law exists.