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> It is this last group [software developers] which Apple has repeatedly stated to be its biggest Pro market. Sorry, what? I haven't seen a shred of marketing

by _bxg1 7y ago

> It is this last group [software developers] which Apple has repeatedly stated to be its biggest Pro market. Sorry, what? I haven't seen a shred of marketing material aiming the new Mac Pro at programmers. Everything about it - including every piece of software shown onscreen in a render - screams Hollywood, which by the author's own admission, "wouldn't bat an eyelid at paying high 5 figure sums for hardware". > even the 1.5TBs a maxed out Mac Pro can handle The max is currently 4.0TB, with an 8.0TB option on the way. Not sure where 1.5 came from. The value proposition on the baseline model is definitely weird, especially how it compares to Apple's own iMac, but I think it's an extreme case for a machine that's really intended to be specced-up. And most of the article was spent laying out, in detail, just how bad of a deal that anomalous configuration is, instead of discussing the more realistic ones.

dudeofawesome 7y ago
The 1.5 TB is referring to the max RAM, not storage.
kart23 7y ago
There is some material about improved build times on the apple site. I'd say that's aimed directly at programmers. Also some stuff on machine learning, but that could be in the domain of other fields. But yes, the majority of marketing material is aimed at creatives and some researchers for simulations.
- _bxg1 7y ago
  Machine learning is a little different since it can actually make use of all those GPUs, but yeah
nwallin 7y ago
Mac is kind of not there in the developer community, unless you're talking about shops that deal primarily in the iOS space. One of my coworkers was given a Mac laptop by IT, not sure why. He uses it to RDP into his Windows desktop. I've told him he should probably... fix that, but he says he's happy with his workflow, and who am I to judge. It's also helped us catch at least one RDP related bug in our software, which is nice. Apple is rightfully very targeted towards the content creation crowd. It's a very spendy bread and butter to carry around in your pocket.
- brokensegue 7y ago
  This is not my experience.
- _bxg1 7y ago
  MacBook Pros are extremely popular with certain segments of developers. But we (typically) need a quad-core and 16Gb of ram, not a 28-core and 384GB ram and three graphics cards.
- pertymcpert 7y ago
  I'm sorry, what? That's completely false.
- tonyedgecombe 7y ago
  From https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-developers-primary-operating-systems https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-... Windows: 47.5% macOS: 26.8% Linux: 25.6%
- coldtea 7y ago
  >Mac is kind of not there in the developer community, unless you're talking about shops that deal primarily in the iOS space. Not in the West. Go to any conference, Java, Rails, JS, Rust, etc, and the share of Mac is widely more than its average market share (like 40% vs 5-10% of the overall market). And when it comes to presenters and "star devs" it's way too much Mac share...
- StuffedParrot 7y ago
  > Mac is kind of not there in the developer community, unless you're talking about shops that deal primarily in the iOS space. This is certainly cultural. I’ve worked in four different states for four different developer driven companies and they were all mac dominated. Macs are certainly “there” in the developer community.
omnipath 7y ago
1.5 TB is talking about the RAM, not the harddrive.

by _bxg1 7y ago

dudeofawesome 7y ago

The 1.5 TB is referring to the max RAM, not storage.

kart23 7y ago

There is some material about improved build times on the apple site. I'd say that's aimed directly at programmers. Also some stuff on machine learning, but that could be in the domain of other fields. But yes, the majority of marketing material is aimed at creatives and some researchers for simulations.

_bxg1 7y ago
Machine learning is a little different since it can actually make use of all those GPUs, but yeah

nwallin 7y ago

Mac is kind of not there in the developer community, unless you're talking about shops that deal primarily in the iOS space. One of my coworkers was given a Mac laptop by IT, not sure why. He uses it to RDP into his Windows desktop. I've told him he should probably... fix that, but he says he's happy with his workflow, and who am I to judge. It's also helped us catch at least one RDP related bug in our software, which is nice. Apple is rightfully very targeted towards the content creation crowd. It's a very spendy bread and butter to carry around in your pocket.

brokensegue 7y ago
This is not my experience.
_bxg1 7y ago
MacBook Pros are extremely popular with certain segments of developers. But we (typically) need a quad-core and 16Gb of ram, not a 28-core and 384GB ram and three graphics cards.
pertymcpert 7y ago
I'm sorry, what? That's completely false.
tonyedgecombe 7y ago
From https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-developers-primary-operating-systems https://insights.stackoverflow.com/survey/2019#technology-_-... Windows: 47.5% macOS: 26.8% Linux: 25.6%
coldtea 7y ago
>Mac is kind of not there in the developer community, unless you're talking about shops that deal primarily in the iOS space. Not in the West. Go to any conference, Java, Rails, JS, Rust, etc, and the share of Mac is widely more than its average market share (like 40% vs 5-10% of the overall market). And when it comes to presenters and "star devs" it's way too much Mac share...
StuffedParrot 7y ago
> Mac is kind of not there in the developer community, unless you're talking about shops that deal primarily in the iOS space. This is certainly cultural. I’ve worked in four different states for four different developer driven companies and they were all mac dominated. Macs are certainly “there” in the developer community.

omnipath 7y ago

1.5 TB is talking about the RAM, not the harddrive.