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Well, there's the small matter of a couple hundred thousand dollars difference in comp.

by ericd 7y ago

CobrastanJorji 7y ago
Although I'm guessing that both may provide free meals.
- ericd 7y ago
  Heh I wonder how long it'd take me to get completely sick of eating In-n-Out.
Digory 7y ago
Maybe google has to pay more to make up for the being a bad place to work. Which is a bit of hyperbole, but higher pay is one way to get people to accept years of schooling, and soul-crushing busywork. You’re not paid for virtue or happiness.
jstummbillig 7y ago
Are you comparing flipping burgers at one company to software engineering at the other? Because I can't see how else you'd end up with that number.
- ericd 7y ago
  Well, I'm pretty sure that's the median job at each. But even if you wanted to compare software engineering at the two, I'm guessing that the comp differential still holds.
  - bashinator 7y ago
    Related, there was a really interesting article going around a few days back, on how Chick-fil-A provisions bare-metal K8s clusters to every single remote branch. Not all the innovation is happening in the FAANGs https://medium.com/@cfatechblog/bare-metal-k8s-clustering-at-chick-fil-a-scale-7b0607bd3541 https://medium.com/@cfatechblog/bare-metal-k8s-clustering-at...
    - ericd 7y ago
      Oh, very cool!
Rebelgecko 7y ago
In-N-Out managers make more than the median salary of Californian software engineers ($160k vs $120k)
- rconti 7y ago
  It seems like you should at least compare software engineering managers.
- wuliwong 7y ago
  According to glassdoor the avg salary for In N Out managers is ~84k [0]. >The typical In-N-Out Burger Store Manager salary is $84,315. Store Manager salaries at In-N-Out Burger can range from $55,134 - $130,157. This estimate is based upon 11 In-N-Out Burger Store Manager salary report(s) provided by employees or estimated based upon statistical methods. When factoring in bonuses and additional compensation, a Store Manager at In-N-Out Burger can expect to make an average total pay of $114,271 . Not sure what the "total pay" means exactly but that averages 114k. Still way below the 160k you quoted which I think was from this article: https://medium.californiasun.co/in-n-out-store-managers-earn-160000-wages-b08fe6f1706f https://medium.californiasun.co/in-n-out-store-managers-earn... The California Sun article gives no sources for the claims of an average salary for in-n-out managers of 160k. Which is amusing as the article does reference Indeed.com for the "architect" salary it compares to in-n-out. According to Indeed.com the average salary is 42.8k [1]. I also saw that the story was picked up by USA Today, so I'm sure most people will forever more think In-N-Out store managers are making 160k on average, truth be damned. [0] https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/In-N-Out-Burger-Store-Manager-Salaries-E14276_D_KO16,29.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/In-N-Out-Burger-Store-Manag... [1] https://www.indeed.com/cmp/In--n--out-Burger/salaries/Manager https://www.indeed.com/cmp/In--n--out-Burger/salaries/Manage...
  - Rebelgecko 7y ago
    According to that Glassdoor link, the average base salary is $84k and the average extra pay (bonuses?) just about doubles that. I'm not sure if I'm reading it right since like you said they describe the average total pay as $114k

Well, there's the small matter of a couple hundred thousand dollars difference in comp.

by ericd 7y ago

Well, there's the small matter of a couple hundred thousand dollars difference in comp.

CobrastanJorji 7y ago

Although I'm guessing that both may provide free meals.

ericd 7y ago
Heh I wonder how long it'd take me to get completely sick of eating In-n-Out.

Digory 7y ago

Maybe google has to pay more to make up for the being a bad place to work. Which is a bit of hyperbole, but higher pay is one way to get people to accept years of schooling, and soul-crushing busywork. You’re not paid for virtue or happiness.

jstummbillig 7y ago

Are you comparing flipping burgers at one company to software engineering at the other? Because I can't see how else you'd end up with that number.

ericd 7y ago
Well, I'm pretty sure that's the median job at each. But even if you wanted to compare software engineering at the two, I'm guessing that the comp differential still holds.
- bashinator 7y ago
  Related, there was a really interesting article going around a few days back, on how Chick-fil-A provisions bare-metal K8s clusters to every single remote branch. Not all the innovation is happening in the FAANGs https://medium.com/@cfatechblog/bare-metal-k8s-clustering-at-chick-fil-a-scale-7b0607bd3541 https://medium.com/@cfatechblog/bare-metal-k8s-clustering-at...
  - ericd 7y ago
    Oh, very cool!

Rebelgecko 7y ago

In-N-Out managers make more than the median salary of Californian software engineers ($160k vs $120k)

rconti 7y ago
It seems like you should at least compare software engineering managers.
wuliwong 7y ago
According to glassdoor the avg salary for In N Out managers is ~84k [0]. >The typical In-N-Out Burger Store Manager salary is $84,315. Store Manager salaries at In-N-Out Burger can range from $55,134 - $130,157. This estimate is based upon 11 In-N-Out Burger Store Manager salary report(s) provided by employees or estimated based upon statistical methods. When factoring in bonuses and additional compensation, a Store Manager at In-N-Out Burger can expect to make an average total pay of $114,271 . Not sure what the "total pay" means exactly but that averages 114k. Still way below the 160k you quoted which I think was from this article: https://medium.californiasun.co/in-n-out-store-managers-earn-160000-wages-b08fe6f1706f https://medium.californiasun.co/in-n-out-store-managers-earn... The California Sun article gives no sources for the claims of an average salary for in-n-out managers of 160k. Which is amusing as the article does reference Indeed.com for the "architect" salary it compares to in-n-out. According to Indeed.com the average salary is 42.8k [1]. I also saw that the story was picked up by USA Today, so I'm sure most people will forever more think In-N-Out store managers are making 160k on average, truth be damned. [0] https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/In-N-Out-Burger-Store-Manager-Salaries-E14276_D_KO16,29.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/In-N-Out-Burger-Store-Manag... [1] https://www.indeed.com/cmp/In--n--out-Burger/salaries/Manager https://www.indeed.com/cmp/In--n--out-Burger/salaries/Manage...
- Rebelgecko 7y ago
  According to that Glassdoor link, the average base salary is $84k and the average extra pay (bonuses?) just about doubles that. I'm not sure if I'm reading it right since like you said they describe the average total pay as $114k