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This is highly inaccurate for a number of reasons: The scores are averaged which any statistician will know means that in a place like In And Out where most jo

This is highly inaccurate for a number of reasons: The scores are averaged which any statistician will know means that in a place like In And Out where most jobs are making $10-$20/hr. Maybe there are accountants at In-N-Out, but I doubt their opinion even moves the needle here. You could say the same about the content flaggers or whatever. The majority opinion from FAANG companies is going to be engineers. And side note: I think anyone who spends their time helping catch child predators is someone to be respected...

corodra 7y ago
Actually, I think you brought up something interesting. The stats are mostly about the "bulk" of the workforce. How are the general workers (grunts) treated? Kind of like, you can tell how clean a restaurant kitchen is by visiting the bathroom. How does Google/Fb treat their grunts (developers I assume) and how does a burger restaurant treat their cashiers/cooks? It's sad if a cashier/linecook feels like they get more respect from their managers than a developer from their own managers.
kortilla 7y ago
> think anyone who spends their time helping catch child predators is someone to be respected... Sure, but knowing the psychological fallout, not really something to want for your own kid.
scarmig 7y ago
You're doing a bit of sleight of hand by treating averages. The comment I was responding to was proposing a hypothetical dilemma, between guaranteeing your kid would work at Google or would work at In-N-Out. My point was twofold: one, that the idea that all jobs at FAANG companies are great is wrong (and, no, the majority of workers at FAANG companies are not engineers, who comprise a minority of employees); and two, the worst jobs at FAANG companies are worse than the worst jobs at In-N-Out. Yes, catching child predators is critical, but reviewing user-supplied content for child pornography, extreme graphic violence, etc. as part of your day job is incredibly psychologically traumatic. It's also likely that the contractors who do so receive worse compensation and benefits than the average In-N-Out worker, who does get paid relatively well and also gets health benefits.
saagarjha 7y ago
> The majority opinion from FAANG companies is going to be engineers. There are more Apple retail employees than engineers. I'd guess Amazon has a similar story, but I haven't checked the numbers for that.

corodra 7y ago

Actually, I think you brought up something interesting. The stats are mostly about the "bulk" of the workforce. How are the general workers (grunts) treated? Kind of like, you can tell how clean a restaurant kitchen is by visiting the bathroom. How does Google/Fb treat their grunts (developers I assume) and how does a burger restaurant treat their cashiers/cooks? It's sad if a cashier/linecook feels like they get more respect from their managers than a developer from their own managers.

kortilla 7y ago

> think anyone who spends their time helping catch child predators is someone to be respected... Sure, but knowing the psychological fallout, not really something to want for your own kid.

scarmig 7y ago

You're doing a bit of sleight of hand by treating averages. The comment I was responding to was proposing a hypothetical dilemma, between guaranteeing your kid would work at Google or would work at In-N-Out. My point was twofold: one, that the idea that all jobs at FAANG companies are great is wrong (and, no, the majority of workers at FAANG companies are not engineers, who comprise a minority of employees); and two, the worst jobs at FAANG companies are worse than the worst jobs at In-N-Out. Yes, catching child predators is critical, but reviewing user-supplied content for child pornography, extreme graphic violence, etc. as part of your day job is incredibly psychologically traumatic. It's also likely that the contractors who do so receive worse compensation and benefits than the average In-N-Out worker, who does get paid relatively well and also gets health benefits.

saagarjha 7y ago

> The majority opinion from FAANG companies is going to be engineers. There are more Apple retail employees than engineers. I'd guess Amazon has a similar story, but I haven't checked the numbers for that.