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> Forcing people to pay thousands of dollars per year to participate in society is highly repressive. You're right. We should charge them thousands of dollars

> Forcing people to pay thousands of dollars per year to participate in society is highly repressive. You're right. We should charge them thousands of dollars per month so they can live downtown and walk everywhere instead. Problem solved!

jjoonathan 7y ago
Support a landlord near you! (Just kidding, you can't afford to. Enjoy your hike! Maybe in 30 years they'll get public transit working where you need it. You'll promptly get priced right out again, but at least you'll know your taxes went to a good cause!)
ramshorns 7y ago
We should improve public transit and urban design so that walkable places aren't in such short supply.
devb 7y ago
.... or have a functional mass transit network so that they don't have to live downtown.
ogre_codes 7y ago
A bike costs less than $500 once and reliably gets you several miles fairly quickly. eBikes get you further faster and are also a fraction of the cost to own/ operate than a car.
- dahfizz 7y ago
  And in the winter you're cold, in the summer you're sweaty, and in the rain you're wet. It's not like people buy cars because they want to waste money. A car is an absolutely massive increase in QOL, especially for the majority of Americans who dont live in city centers and who don't want to live in city centers.
  - ogre_codes 7y ago
    > A car is an absolutely massive increase in QOL When you build cities which requires cars to get around then owning a car is almost essential. When a city is built around other forms of transportation, not so much. All the insurmountable problems like rain and sun happen in the places where bikes are common, it turns out people are just fine without their cars when the infrastructure is good enough. The big problem with car friendly infrastructure is it takes up so much space, it makes almost every other form of transportation more dangerous and slower.

jjoonathan 7y ago

Support a landlord near you! (Just kidding, you can't afford to. Enjoy your hike! Maybe in 30 years they'll get public transit working where you need it. You'll promptly get priced right out again, but at least you'll know your taxes went to a good cause!)

ramshorns 7y ago

We should improve public transit and urban design so that walkable places aren't in such short supply.

devb 7y ago

.... or have a functional mass transit network so that they don't have to live downtown.

ogre_codes 7y ago

A bike costs less than $500 once and reliably gets you several miles fairly quickly. eBikes get you further faster and are also a fraction of the cost to own/ operate than a car.

dahfizz 7y ago
And in the winter you're cold, in the summer you're sweaty, and in the rain you're wet. It's not like people buy cars because they want to waste money. A car is an absolutely massive increase in QOL, especially for the majority of Americans who dont live in city centers and who don't want to live in city centers.
- ogre_codes 7y ago
  > A car is an absolutely massive increase in QOL When you build cities which requires cars to get around then owning a car is almost essential. When a city is built around other forms of transportation, not so much. All the insurmountable problems like rain and sun happen in the places where bikes are common, it turns out people are just fine without their cars when the infrastructure is good enough. The big problem with car friendly infrastructure is it takes up so much space, it makes almost every other form of transportation more dangerous and slower.