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I sympathise but I think this post has a few contradictions in it. For example, I'm not surprised the bus in your area is inconvenient schedule-wise because I a

by spats1990 7y ago

I sympathise but I think this post has a few contradictions in it. For example, I'm not surprised the bus in your area is inconvenient schedule-wise because I assume you aren't the only person in your city who drives ten minutes to work. Ten minutes? Wouldn't it take you about thirty minutes maximum to walk in that case? If the walk would be unpleasant or otherwise not viable, can't that probably be blamed on car systems as well? I don't think anyone thinks we can get rid of cars entirely. I'm from a country with the same land area as Japan but with ~115 million fewer people. You can't get rid of private vehicles in a place like that. But you can make urban areas less wasteful and more enjoyable.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
Ten minutes? Wouldn't it take you about thirty minutes maximum to walk in that case? You can go a lot more than 1.5mi in 10min if there isn't bad traffic. If 3/10 of those minutes are on a highway that's probably an hour or worth or more of walking. >If the walk would be unpleasant or otherwise not viable, can't that probably be blamed on car systems as well? Houston will be hot and Detroit will be cold for several months of the year with or without cars. Having air conditioned boxes that can do last mile transportation is part of why the southern US is as developed as it is. Obviously there becomes a density point where it makes sense to offload a lot of the transportation needs onto public traffic by many cities and suburbs are not there yet.
- spats1990 7y ago
  Regarding weather, that will always be a factor too. I was going to mention it, but I did that thing where I thought I included a sentence then it wasn't there when I reread what I'd written. I see my position as not car-hostile or car-eliminatory but efficiency-maximising. With that said, this: >Obviously there becomes a density point where it makes sense to offload a lot of the transportation needs onto public traffic by many cities and suburbs are not there yet. Is a bit hard to swallow when car-default systems allow indefinite suburban growth. Feedback loop.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago

Ten minutes? Wouldn't it take you about thirty minutes maximum to walk in that case? You can go a lot more than 1.5mi in 10min if there isn't bad traffic. If 3/10 of those minutes are on a highway that's probably an hour or worth or more of walking. >If the walk would be unpleasant or otherwise not viable, can't that probably be blamed on car systems as well? Houston will be hot and Detroit will be cold for several months of the year with or without cars. Having air conditioned boxes that can do last mile transportation is part of why the southern US is as developed as it is. Obviously there becomes a density point where it makes sense to offload a lot of the transportation needs onto public traffic by many cities and suburbs are not there yet.

spats1990 7y ago
Regarding weather, that will always be a factor too. I was going to mention it, but I did that thing where I thought I included a sentence then it wasn't there when I reread what I'd written. I see my position as not car-hostile or car-eliminatory but efficiency-maximising. With that said, this: >Obviously there becomes a density point where it makes sense to offload a lot of the transportation needs onto public traffic by many cities and suburbs are not there yet. Is a bit hard to swallow when car-default systems allow indefinite suburban growth. Feedback loop.