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From the union discussion the other day, one thing that always struck me was how weird it was that more conservatives don't encourage labor unions in the privat
by elicash 7y ago
From the union discussion the other day, one thing that always struck me was how weird it was that more conservatives don't encourage labor unions in the private sector.
I'd have thought, since fundamentally union membership is about private contracts between employers and a group of workers, that conservatives would see it as an alternative to government stepping in and setting up minimum wages.
If we had friendlier labor laws and we allowed more groups of workers to organize, the need for the federal government to step in with wage floors would decrease and, importantly, there would be more flexibility for employers AND employees -- like instead of paying above a certain minimum wage both sides could agree to more generous healthcare and/or retirement packages.
- Miner49er 7y agoModern conservationism in the United States is, by definition, anti-union. [1] This sort of political view aligns more with libertarian socialism, specifically in ideas like syndicalism. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_Sta...
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- elicash 7y agoYour comment is an interesting one, so not trying to disagree, but... Modern conservatism is not so well-defined. I'd say "conservatism" is best defined by the values of people who call themselves conservative, not by political theorists. And that therefore that it's more partisan and tribal than ideological.
- CharlesColeman 7y ago> From the union discussion the other day, one thing that always struck me was how weird it was that more conservatives don't encourage labor unions in the private sector. At least in the US, I attribute this to "big business" interests being a major faction in the Republican coalition, more due to contributions of money than votes. Their ideology is ultimately self-interest, they benefit from weak unions/worker disorganization, and have the resources to promote their self-interested view as that of the party/ideology. They've been successful, because most people have more of a political tribal identity which dictates their positions than a well-thought-out ideology.
- foogazi 7y agoDoesn’t a consultancy business work like this? A business outsources work to another (business) group of people and they both sides define the contract between them The problem comes in with compulsory contracts were like “Hey, you now deal with all of us”