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Any particular reason why this isn't notarised? I realise it's another hoop to jump through (and an annual fee for Apple's developer program), but given that I'

by Doches 7y ago

Any particular reason why this isn't notarised? I realise it's another hoop to jump through (and an annual fee for Apple's developer program), but given that I'm going to connect this thing to my Stripe account it would be nice if it didn't feel like it was avoiding (minimal! easy!) security checks. For that matter, it's also slightly misleading that you don't call it out as Catalina-only. I'd love to use it (to wit, I've just paid you for it!) but I'm sure there are still lots of folks putting off the upgrade to Catalina. (Indie game devs especially, since Steam's upload tools are 32-bit).

VadimPR 7y ago
Or anyone using Windows software through Wine/Crossover - since Crossover only announced support for Catalina yesterday.
jsjohnst 7y ago
Came here to say the same thing. The installation b/s gives me the impression this developer doesn’t take releasing MacOS software serious enough to trust them with running code on my machine, let alone having access to highly secure things like payment gateway auth tokens.
- fit2rule 7y ago
  Hey now, the notarisation priority bit has only been set for a little while, if you wanna release early/often, you can't wait around for Apple to approve your submission...
  - Doches 7y ago
    I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but I notarise builds on commit as part of CI and it took...all of about five minutes to set up. Three of those minutes were me hunting around my desk for my 2FA phone. The whole thing is _trivial_ to automate, and I normally see notarisation times around 2-3 minutes. Is it more tedious than just flinging something up on the web? Sure. Is it so much of an obstacle that we should give up on shipping vaguely secure software for Macs? Obviously not. (I do have time for the argument that the $non-zero/year fee excludes a huge swath of indie/hobbyist/student developers, but that's not what we're talking about here.)
    - jsjohnst 7y ago
      Thanks for saying this. I emphatically agree with all points but wanted to add, even if you don’t have a CI/CD pipeline already, doing notorization is trivial locally.
      - kulesh 7y ago
        Fixed the notarization, thanks for bringing that up!
        jsjohnst 7y ago
        Your reply makes me feel a bunch better about your product. Keep up the good work!
    - fit2rule 7y ago
      Good for you. You always have the Internet on when you do your builds.

by Doches 7y ago

VadimPR 7y ago

Or anyone using Windows software through Wine/Crossover - since Crossover only announced support for Catalina yesterday.

jsjohnst 7y ago

Came here to say the same thing. The installation b/s gives me the impression this developer doesn’t take releasing MacOS software serious enough to trust them with running code on my machine, let alone having access to highly secure things like payment gateway auth tokens.

fit2rule 7y ago
Hey now, the notarisation priority bit has only been set for a little while, if you wanna release early/often, you can't wait around for Apple to approve your submission...
- Doches 7y ago
  I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or not, but I notarise builds on commit as part of CI and it took...all of about five minutes to set up. Three of those minutes were me hunting around my desk for my 2FA phone. The whole thing is _trivial_ to automate, and I normally see notarisation times around 2-3 minutes. Is it more tedious than just flinging something up on the web? Sure. Is it so much of an obstacle that we should give up on shipping vaguely secure software for Macs? Obviously not. (I do have time for the argument that the $non-zero/year fee excludes a huge swath of indie/hobbyist/student developers, but that's not what we're talking about here.)
  - jsjohnst 7y ago
    Thanks for saying this. I emphatically agree with all points but wanted to add, even if you don’t have a CI/CD pipeline already, doing notorization is trivial locally.
    - kulesh 7y ago
      Fixed the notarization, thanks for bringing that up!
      - jsjohnst 7y ago
        Your reply makes me feel a bunch better about your product. Keep up the good work!
  - fit2rule 7y ago
    Good for you. You always have the Internet on when you do your builds.