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When you imply people are making choices compared to others. What evidence are you making your assertion from besides assuming people choose what happens in lif

by sysbin 7y ago

When you imply people are making choices compared to others. What evidence are you making your assertion from besides assuming people choose what happens in life. People are born with variables that factor into what path they’re forced to experience. I think it’s great when people take a step back and try improving these paths for the benefit of the persons health. Otherwise progress from previous generations is being not used to the fullest.

bransonf 7y ago
I’m not sure I understand where you’re coming from... Even if not absolute, there is certainly more choice in pursuing a PhD than getting an STD. Maybe someone experiences pressure to pursue a PhD (I have to some extent) but the end choice is in their hands, and anyone seriously contemplating a PhD will quickly realize the stress associated with it. Of the couple dozen or so grad students I’ve talked to, they were fascinated by subject matter and decided to pursue it further. Most were well informed of the consequences (stress, job outlook) Pursuing a PhD signals privilege. Getting an STD does not.
- sysbin 7y ago
  I'm asserting there is no choice. Depending on the life born into, one will lead to a certain path compared to a different life. Since everything depends on the birth, genetics, parent financial status, geographic location, and the chain of external forces (events) that happen where every previous event factors into the equation. You on the other hand are asserting that you believe people can choose and while ignoring how that can even be the case.
  - bransonf 7y ago
    I see. We disagree on a philosophical basis. I’m not a determinist. That said, I can respect that you are.
    - sysbin 7y ago
      Why are you not a determinist when studying sociology? What gives you the idea that people are choosing things. Research related to neuroscience about how the brain effects people should be enough with the logic of understanding determinism. Also how can you make a choice that's truly your own without being effected by the system you're in. Nothing is different than your birth (we didn't have choice over) and people just like to assume what follows is different because of how society conditions us to assume it.

by sysbin 7y ago

bransonf 7y ago

I’m not sure I understand where you’re coming from... Even if not absolute, there is certainly more choice in pursuing a PhD than getting an STD. Maybe someone experiences pressure to pursue a PhD (I have to some extent) but the end choice is in their hands, and anyone seriously contemplating a PhD will quickly realize the stress associated with it. Of the couple dozen or so grad students I’ve talked to, they were fascinated by subject matter and decided to pursue it further. Most were well informed of the consequences (stress, job outlook) Pursuing a PhD signals privilege. Getting an STD does not.

sysbin 7y ago
I'm asserting there is no choice. Depending on the life born into, one will lead to a certain path compared to a different life. Since everything depends on the birth, genetics, parent financial status, geographic location, and the chain of external forces (events) that happen where every previous event factors into the equation. You on the other hand are asserting that you believe people can choose and while ignoring how that can even be the case.
- bransonf 7y ago
  I see. We disagree on a philosophical basis. I’m not a determinist. That said, I can respect that you are.
  - sysbin 7y ago
    Why are you not a determinist when studying sociology? What gives you the idea that people are choosing things. Research related to neuroscience about how the brain effects people should be enough with the logic of understanding determinism. Also how can you make a choice that's truly your own without being effected by the system you're in. Nothing is different than your birth (we didn't have choice over) and people just like to assume what follows is different because of how society conditions us to assume it.