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Interesting, thanks. Unfortunately, those tiles are pretty ugly compared to Mapbox, but it might be an option if I can't find anything else. Edit: Also it's $1

Interesting, thanks. Unfortunately, those tiles are pretty ugly compared to Mapbox, but it might be an option if I can't find anything else. Edit: Also it's $1,000 for commercial use, even to use with OSM data?

TomMarius 7y ago
Could you send an example of a great looking map?
- atombender 7y ago
  Mapbox's tiles are very good. I particularly like the hybrid terrain + road mode, which you can see here: https://homes.stltoday.com/search https://homes.stltoday.com/search
  - kylebarron 7y ago
    I agree that layer is gorgeous. I think the best open vector map style is OSM liberty [0]. My fork, which includes my generated hillshade and contours, is here [1]. [0]: https://github.com/maputnik/osm-liberty https://github.com/maputnik/osm-liberty [1]: https://github.com/nst-guide/osm-liberty/blob/gh-pages/style.json https://github.com/nst-guide/osm-liberty/blob/gh-pages/style...
bransonf 7y ago
You can style the tiles or use your own. Where did you find the $1000 quote? I know you can have them hosted unlimited for $245/month but I was fairly sure it was free for self-hosted use.
- atombender 7y ago
  It's a little unclear to me. But from what I can gather, the basic software can download data from OSM, but if you want hillshading or satellite, you have to get that separately, and it's part of the $1,000 "production package" [1], which is actually $2,048 for businesses, plus $1,024/year for updates. [1] https://openmaptiles.com/production-package/ https://openmaptiles.com/production-package/
  - kylebarron 7y ago
    I have a couple open source repos for generating hillshade and contours (raster and vector, respectively) that I use with my self hosted tiles at nst.guide. The data sources I'm using are US only, though SRTM is a common choice for international Digital Elevation Models. [0]: https://github.com/nst-guide/hillshade https://github.com/nst-guide/hillshade [1]: https://github.com/nst-guide/contours https://github.com/nst-guide/contours
    - atombender 7y ago
      Awesome, thanks!
- atombender 7y ago
  Update: So if you run the server locally and select maps, you're presented with this screen, saying you need a key from openmaptiles.com: https://i.imgur.com/NTb5zIL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NTb5zIL.jpg. If you select "commercial product or company web", you're asked to pay for it: https://i.imgur.com/TrAmju4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TrAmju4.jpg If you select any of the non-commercial ones, the newest map data you get is from 2017 (!). I'm not against paying, but it's not free!
  - vetinari 7y ago
    The point is to generate your own; the purchasing option is if you don't want to generate your own, but want something done for you and packaged. See here: https://openmaptiles.org/docs/generate/generate-openmaptiles/ https://openmaptiles.org/docs/generate/generate-openmaptiles...
    - atombender 7y ago
      Thanks, I will look into that. It's not altogether clear from their site — their Docker image basically implies that you're supposed to use their pre-existing datasets, which aren't free.
      - mycall 7y ago
        You can find free OSM PBF data sets. eg. https://download.geofabrik.de/north-america/us/california.html https://download.geofabrik.de/north-america/us/california.ht...
  - kylebarron 7y ago
    Docs for building the tiles yourself are here [0,1]. It's worked really well for me so far. If you want a visual example of self hosted tiles, you can check out my (in progress) website [2]. The tiles are all hosted statically in S3 with cloudflare as a proxy, so it was pretty cheap. [0]: https://github.com/openmaptiles/openmaptiles/blob/master/README.md https://github.com/openmaptiles/openmaptiles/blob/master/REA... [1]: https://github.com/openmaptiles/openmaptiles/blob/master/QUICKSTART.md https://github.com/openmaptiles/openmaptiles/blob/master/QUI... [2]: https://nst.guide https://nst.guide
- atombender 7y ago
  Forgot to answer about styling. Yes, looks like custom styles with the production package (which has hillshading, which ends up making the maps look much nicer) is much better. For some reason their main demos don't show off their best map styles.
dwnoble 7y ago
It's only $20/mo for their commercial cloud offering: https://www.maptiler.com/cloud/plans/ https://www.maptiler.com/cloud/plans/
- atombender 7y ago
  Only if you're below 500k raster tile downloads per month. The app I need this for is at 5.5m/mo, so it'd be a little more than $245/mo. Still better than Mapbox, though.

TomMarius 7y ago

Could you send an example of a great looking map?

atombender 7y ago
Mapbox's tiles are very good. I particularly like the hybrid terrain + road mode, which you can see here: https://homes.stltoday.com/search https://homes.stltoday.com/search
- kylebarron 7y ago
  I agree that layer is gorgeous. I think the best open vector map style is OSM liberty [0]. My fork, which includes my generated hillshade and contours, is here [1]. [0]: https://github.com/maputnik/osm-liberty https://github.com/maputnik/osm-liberty [1]: https://github.com/nst-guide/osm-liberty/blob/gh-pages/style.json https://github.com/nst-guide/osm-liberty/blob/gh-pages/style...

bransonf 7y ago

You can style the tiles or use your own. Where did you find the $1000 quote? I know you can have them hosted unlimited for $245/month but I was fairly sure it was free for self-hosted use.

atombender 7y ago
It's a little unclear to me. But from what I can gather, the basic software can download data from OSM, but if you want hillshading or satellite, you have to get that separately, and it's part of the $1,000 "production package" [1], which is actually $2,048 for businesses, plus $1,024/year for updates. [1] https://openmaptiles.com/production-package/ https://openmaptiles.com/production-package/
- kylebarron 7y ago
  I have a couple open source repos for generating hillshade and contours (raster and vector, respectively) that I use with my self hosted tiles at nst.guide. The data sources I'm using are US only, though SRTM is a common choice for international Digital Elevation Models. [0]: https://github.com/nst-guide/hillshade https://github.com/nst-guide/hillshade [1]: https://github.com/nst-guide/contours https://github.com/nst-guide/contours
  - atombender 7y ago
    Awesome, thanks!
atombender 7y ago
Update: So if you run the server locally and select maps, you're presented with this screen, saying you need a key from openmaptiles.com: https://i.imgur.com/NTb5zIL.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NTb5zIL.jpg. If you select "commercial product or company web", you're asked to pay for it: https://i.imgur.com/TrAmju4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/TrAmju4.jpg If you select any of the non-commercial ones, the newest map data you get is from 2017 (!). I'm not against paying, but it's not free!
- vetinari 7y ago
  The point is to generate your own; the purchasing option is if you don't want to generate your own, but want something done for you and packaged. See here: https://openmaptiles.org/docs/generate/generate-openmaptiles/ https://openmaptiles.org/docs/generate/generate-openmaptiles...
  - atombender 7y ago
    Thanks, I will look into that. It's not altogether clear from their site — their Docker image basically implies that you're supposed to use their pre-existing datasets, which aren't free.
    - mycall 7y ago
      You can find free OSM PBF data sets. eg. https://download.geofabrik.de/north-america/us/california.html https://download.geofabrik.de/north-america/us/california.ht...
- kylebarron 7y ago
  Docs for building the tiles yourself are here [0,1]. It's worked really well for me so far. If you want a visual example of self hosted tiles, you can check out my (in progress) website [2]. The tiles are all hosted statically in S3 with cloudflare as a proxy, so it was pretty cheap. [0]: https://github.com/openmaptiles/openmaptiles/blob/master/README.md https://github.com/openmaptiles/openmaptiles/blob/master/REA... [1]: https://github.com/openmaptiles/openmaptiles/blob/master/QUICKSTART.md https://github.com/openmaptiles/openmaptiles/blob/master/QUI... [2]: https://nst.guide https://nst.guide
atombender 7y ago
Forgot to answer about styling. Yes, looks like custom styles with the production package (which has hillshading, which ends up making the maps look much nicer) is much better. For some reason their main demos don't show off their best map styles.

dwnoble 7y ago

It's only $20/mo for their commercial cloud offering: https://www.maptiler.com/cloud/plans/ https://www.maptiler.com/cloud/plans/

atombender 7y ago
Only if you're below 500k raster tile downloads per month. The app I need this for is at 5.5m/mo, so it'd be a little more than $245/mo. Still better than Mapbox, though.