It goes the other way too, with state-sponsored groups using troll tactics and even enlisting "for the lulz" trolls to disrupt conversations that don't suit the

It goes the other way too, with state-sponsored groups using troll tactics and even enlisting "for the lulz" trolls to disrupt conversations that don't suit them. Also, while it's true that "troll" gets used too lightly sometimes, it's also true that a high percentage of those who like to point it out just don't want to examine their own genuinely troll-ish behavior. Examples of "telling hard truths" and "consider all sides" and "devil's advocate" abound here.