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> In the summer I now drink ice tea, in the winter regular tea. Is the OP aware that tea also contains caffeine, right? Regular black tea has generally much l
by qalmakka 7y ago
> In the summer I now drink ice tea, in the winter regular tea.
Is the OP aware that tea also contains caffeine, right?
Regular black tea has generally much less than espresso, but it's still a caffeinated beverage.
- cosmotic 7y agoDrip coffee has even more than espresso. https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-complete-guide-to-starbucks-caffeine https://www.caffeineinformer.com/the-complete-guide-to-starb...
- alasdair_ 7y ago>Drip coffee has even more than espresso. Only if you also think that beer has more ethanol in it than whisky. In equal quantities, neither is true.
- carlmr 7y agoAnd if you believe that people routinely drink the same quantities of espresso as they do drip coffee or beer and whiskey that comparison would make sense. But people usually drink much less whiskey and espresso, therefore it's much more relevant to compare commonly used quantities.
- rkachowski 7y agowhat would the quantities of ethanol be in 100ml of whisky vs 100ml of beer?
- Symbiote 7y ago40% × 0.1 L = 40 mL. 5% × 0.1 L = 5 mL.
- to1y 7y agoIf you drank the same amount of espresso as you normally would drip coffee, you would die.
- ac29 7y agoNah, the LD50 of Caffeine is pretty high - something like 14g [0]. Thats way over 100 shots of espresso. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Overdose https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine#Overdose
- coldtea 7y agoWhy would that matter? Only the quantity in serving size matters...
- kohtatsu 7y ago>Drip coffee has even more than espresso [in typical serving sizes]. FTFY. You need 4 shots of espresso to match the caffeine in 16oz of drip coffee. This does depend on roast; darker roasts have less. A 16oz or 20oz latte at Starbucks will have 2 shots, i.e. medium roast drip is double, and even a standard 16oz americano at Starbucks only has 3 shots; drip still has 33% more. Flat Whites are trickier, because despite having an extra shot over lattes (3 in 16oz/20oz), the shots are ristretto (less water), which extract less caffeine.
- cowgoesmo0 7y ago> This does depend on roast; darker roasts have less. While this is technically true, it's quite misleading because coffee measurements are typically done by weight. Caffeine content between roast levels only differ meaningfully when measuring by volume instead of weight. Coffee beans swell as they are roasted meaning darker roasts are less dense.
- kohtatsu 7y agoFWIW it does impact coffee at Starbucks, at least in Canada. (Nutrition Information linked from starbucks.ca) https://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/94fbcc2ab1e24359850fa1870fc988bc.pdf https://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/94fbcc2ab1e2435985... A 16oz cup of Dark, Medium and Blonde is listed as 260mg, 310mg, and 360mg respectively.
- drcharris 7y agoFor those interested, Starbucks publishes caffeine content of all their drinks, which makes a nice baseline for comparison. A 'tall' filter coffee, which IIRC is 16oz in the US, is 229mg, about equivalent to 3 single espresso shots (page 4 of the link below). https://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/E3DA4F2E01A148DD88D61BC756C5A223.pdf https://globalassets.starbucks.com/assets/E3DA4F2E01A148DD88...
- kohtatsu 7y agoShort, Tall, Grande, Venti => 8oz, 12oz, 16oz, 20oz respectively. 16oz of drip is listed as 308mg.
- coldtea 7y agoOnly if you think people drink beer and whisky in "equal quantities". In the real world, people drink more beer, and far larger cups and amounts of drip coffee than espresso.
- rapsey 7y agoAs a regular black tea drinker, the caffeine in it has zero effect on me. Drinking any kind of coffee except decaf on the other hand makes me jittery and sweaty.
- Neil44 7y agoDepends on the type of tea, for example Roibos tea, ginger, camomile don’t contain caffeine
- 0db532a0 7y agoThese are generally known as herbal infusions or tisanes, and not tea.
- pgeorgi 7y agoThat varies by locale
- 0db532a0 7y agoI would say that ‘herbal tea’ is a valid term, but that whatever is a ‘herbal tea’ is generally not viewed as ‘a type of tea’, and rather, as ‘a type of herbal infusion’. ‘a type of tea’ is generally viewed as ‘type of tea plant and its dried leaves’.
- mirekrusin 7y agoThat's tisane/herbal-tea - not "tea" per-se, you can make infusion like this from pretty much anything. Tea has more caffeine than coffee by dry weight. It also depends how long you infuse it, you can easily have a cup of tea that has more caffeine than cup of coffee.
- qalmakka 7y ago> Depends on the type of tea, for example Roibos tea, ginger, camomile don’t contain caffeine With "tea" I generally mean _Camelia sinensis_, and the variety of teas made from it (black, green, white, yellow, oolong, puerh, ...)
- TheKIngofBelAir 7y agoCaffeine is packed with [0]health benefits that outweigh the few downsides though. [0] https://selfhacked.com/blog/caffeine-benefits/ https://selfhacked.com/blog/caffeine-benefits/
- wojcikstefan 7y agoContext: I stopped drinking alcohol and coffee 5 months ago. Even though tea also contains caffeine, you can drink quite a bit of it and not get the same effects as you get with coffee – increased anxiety, jittery hands, overwhelming feeling of tiredness when you're on your way down from a caffeine high, etc. Coffee is caffeine and tea is caffeine, but one is much more potent than the other. I've never been able to push myself over the edge, even when drinking tea.
- vector_spaces 7y agoTea, coffee, and chocolate all contain caffeine, with coffee (typically) containing the most caffeine. But variation in caffeine levels isn't the only reason these herbs impact people differently. In addition to caffeine, all of these herbs contain other stimulant alkaloids, such as theophylline, theobromine, paraxanthine, and others. Levels of these minor alkaloids vary depending on the herb, the variety, and how it was prepared. But yeah, everyone's body is pretty different, and herbs vary wildly in how they impact people. It's interesting how you can drink quite a bit of tea, whereas I pretty reliably get a headache, start feeling anxious, get crazy palpitations, and have a brutal crash if I have more than a cup a day. Coffee is usually OK up to quite a few cups a day -- there's particular roasts that I handle better than others, and I use reusable K-cups for the consistency.
- edzx 7y agoThis is quite interesting to learn that what coffee contains than other caffeine included ones. I've kind of a feeling that choclate should be the most effective one between those. It helps to release endorphins and stays much longer in digestion than others. I think these could make chocolate the most beneficial one in the long term.
- wojcikstefan 7y agoVery interesting, thanks for sharing! Having read up on it, it indeed seems that people's sensitivity to tea vs coffee varies wildly. I just happen to be a person who's more sensitive to coffee (the 2nd cup of the day could result in a crash, anxiety, palpitations, etc.).
- vitro 7y agoThere is also a difference in how body absorbs caffeine. With coffee there are spikes in the energy while with the tea the caffeine is absorbed over a greater period of time. I've stopped drinking coffee for that reason, now having a cup or two only on Sunday. Before I was drinking two, three sometimes more cups during the day and was really anxious. Came back to green tea and the energy is more balanced now.
- skohan 7y agoTea also contains L-arganin, which is a nutrient depleted by caffeine. Having not enough contributes to the "jitters" people experience drinking coffee, so this is one reason tea drinking can be a bit less harsh.
- canttestthis 7y agoDo you mean l-theanine?
- skohan 7y agoyes
- megla_ 7y ago^
- jerome-jh 7y agoI can drink much coffee and feel almost no effect (although I usually stick to two coffees a day). When I drink tea, I have shaking hands, especially with the bottled ice tea from the supermarket. Let's say I wanted to change from coffee to another hot but not sweet beverage: which one?
- nathanaldensr 7y agoHave you considered the shaking hands might actually be caffeine withdrawal?
- jerome-jh 7y agoCertainly it is not the case. It occurs specifically when drinking tea. I can spend a day with only my morning coffee.
- coldtea 7y ago>When I drink tea, I have shaking hands, especially with the bottled ice tea from the supermarket Could be the tons of sugar? Or other artificial crap? >Let's say I wanted to change from coffee to another hot but not sweet beverage: which one? Tea is great and has health benefits. The tea in "bottled ice tea from the supermarket" is not representative.
- fileeditview 7y agoI can recommend green tea. It has also a waking effect but not as strong as coffe and in my experience longer lasting. It is more subtle. There are many green teas with different tastes and you have to infuse them the right way. Worth noting is that you should not use teabag green tea but loose one. The teabag tea usually has a bad quality. If you infuse green tea you should not do it too long (usually about 1,5min) and the water should be lower than 80°C. You need to experiment there a bit to find your perfect timings. TLDR Green tea is worth a try, just don't use a cheap one (avoid teabags).
- jerome-jh 7y agoSounds a lot like what my dad is drinking :) so it will be easy to try next time I see him.
- coldtea 7y agoWell, we are aware that "much less" is much less right? And the parent doesn't talk about quitting caffeine, but quitting coffee. And that there are lots of tea varieties, many with 0% caffeine.