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Proof of concept - feedback appreciated

13 points by iqster 16y ago

saw-lau 16y ago
I tried it with the message "What's all this about then?" and it barfed due to the single quote.
- iqster 16y ago
  Sorry about the bug with the single quotes. Will fix this the next time I get a chance to update the code on my server.
zachallaun 16y ago
Could you provide a use case for this tool? It seems to work, but its value isn't plainly clear to me. (I'm sure you had a cool reason to create it -- I just want to know what that reason was!) [edit] Based on the use case provided, I think that a very simple change could be made that would increase the value tremendously: generate, as well as the code, a randomized link that can be more easily sent to others through text message or email.
- BoppreH 16y ago
  Transmitting your location by phone? "nearfeed.com, code 05-93-37" is a lot less error prone then spelling out addresses. Seems kinda limited, though.
- iqster 16y ago
  Thanks for the feedback so far. I'm often in a situation where I need to tell someone where I am in a strange location (moved to a new city - coordinating with friends). This involves finding a street sign (which aren't always visible). Geolocation solves that part of the problem. I imagine that speaking a sequence of three codes over a phone is relatively easy. I wish I could make it a single 2-digit number or perhaps two, but then it won't scale to too many users simultaneously :(
  - seanalltogether 16y ago
    I think you've found a good problem, but I honestly think this is a very narrow solution. If anything people are going to be text messaging their locations to one another, not speaking them over the phone, in which case you'd just send a link. If they are on a call there's no guarantee that both parties can use data while talking.
    - iqster 16y ago
      Valid point. Right now, my GF and I are texting these codes to each other ... this wasn't something I imagined. Accessing the net while talking is another issue you rightly bring up.
bpeters 16y ago
Fun little tool. Have you thought about letting users select a location on a map and then generating a code to send out? Could be used to make interesting Geo-games amongst friends or have a code that reveals a location of a secret party! This could be used for businesses to embed in their site, and when they send out advertisements with a code, users would have to log on to their site and get the secret location.
- iqster 16y ago
  The advert/geo-game idea seems cool! Thank you.
BoppreH 16y ago
Very simple, almost no moving parts, working well. I just found the URL strange. Is this temporary?
- iqster 16y ago
  I wanted nearcode ... but someone already had that. Plus the idea of the noun "near-code" seemed to confuse people. I'll keep it up on the URL since it doesn't cost me much to run this thing.
RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
> We're sorry. Your browser does not allow > us to retrieve your current location. Well, I guess that was inevitable for me. On all three of the browsers I use. It seems like a fun little tool, but I can't play. 8-( Anyone care to publish here the codes it generates for them?
- bdfh42 16y ago
  Sure 13-24-90
  - RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
    Huh - cool. We're actually in the same country, just about 40 miles apart.
    - bdfh42 16y ago
      We moved back to the UK last year after 10 years in France - quite enjoying living in a small English country town after the very rural life in SW France. Nice to know there are some local (ish) HNrs
jordanmessina 16y ago
This is similar to my weekend project http://mobileply.com http://mobileply.com although I currently have sequential IDs not codes. I'm soon going to implement unique codes like this. Mobileply would actually do real time tracking too. We could never find a way to make money from this type of app. It always seemed that the use case only would come up a few times a year and people would never remember your service over others. What were you planning on doing with this?
- cfontes 16y ago
  How many users do you have now ? how many requests per day ? It's a nice tool, maybe some marketing ? What you used to create the site ? nice design !
  - jordanmessina 16y ago
    About 2000 people have used it. Like I said, can't really call them a user since this tool is useful maybe 4 times a year. We built it for ourselves because we just moved to Pittsburgh, PA and couldn't find our way around this city. We haven't tried any marketing, we're not even sure what niche we're serving still. It's built using Django, although I'm probably going to rewrite it to use either node or Tornado + web sockets. It's kind of a hodgepodge implementation right now that was built just as a proof of concept to start.
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lalitm 16y ago
incorrect location by about 15 kms
- iqster 16y ago
  I'm just using the location given by the browser (it might be IP-based, wifi-based, GPS-based etc). I am surprised how inaccurate it is sometimes on my desktop. Thankfully, I get relatively accurate location most of the time on my phone.
Tycho 16y ago
Small quibble, but could you make it so the hyphens in the code aren't necessary? (or at least so you don't have to manually type them) Oh and it was deadly accurate when I tried on iPad. I could see this being useful if you've lost track of people at a carnival or something
- iqster 16y ago
  Yup ... I'll make the hyphens optional. Thanks for the feedback!
jporta 16y ago
13-16-95, 64-67-64. You need to make unique codes for same locations.
- iqster 16y ago
  I did think about that but the messages that you leave someone are likely going to be different, and hence you need different codes.
FR6 16y ago
-Why using a code and not simply a URL (ex.: http://nearfeed.com/667568 http://nearfeed.com/667568)? It will be less manipulation then having to copy/paste the code in a textbox. -Why using a code and not just giving coordinates? -Not really accurate for me, 2 km away. I know that its not on your side it has to do with my IP. To obtain the coordinates have you tried another geoip service besides Google Maps? Like maxmind database (http://www.maxmind.com http://www.maxmind.com)?
- krisrak 16y ago
  I created a similar project to share/track real-time location as you move, its an iPhone app that shares location and generates a url that can be opened by friends on any browser. It not just static location, but will show your real-time location, if you move, then the marker on url moves. Check out http://shaloc.com http://shaloc.com use invite code "hackernews" to get iPhone app promo code to download. Give feedback, thanks.
xobgub 16y ago
FYI: Glympse already does this with a pretty UI and all.
- iqster 16y ago
  Glympse looks pretty sweet. Thanks for the pointer. The point of this tool is to be extremely simple (no accounts or login). Continuous tracking is often useful but it kills batteries and raises some additional privacy concerns.

13 points by iqster 16y ago

saw-lau 16y ago

I tried it with the message "What's all this about then?" and it barfed due to the single quote.

iqster 16y ago
Sorry about the bug with the single quotes. Will fix this the next time I get a chance to update the code on my server.

zachallaun 16y ago

Could you provide a use case for this tool? It seems to work, but its value isn't plainly clear to me. (I'm sure you had a cool reason to create it -- I just want to know what that reason was!) [edit] Based on the use case provided, I think that a very simple change could be made that would increase the value tremendously: generate, as well as the code, a randomized link that can be more easily sent to others through text message or email.

BoppreH 16y ago
Transmitting your location by phone? "nearfeed.com, code 05-93-37" is a lot less error prone then spelling out addresses. Seems kinda limited, though.
iqster 16y ago
Thanks for the feedback so far. I'm often in a situation where I need to tell someone where I am in a strange location (moved to a new city - coordinating with friends). This involves finding a street sign (which aren't always visible). Geolocation solves that part of the problem. I imagine that speaking a sequence of three codes over a phone is relatively easy. I wish I could make it a single 2-digit number or perhaps two, but then it won't scale to too many users simultaneously :(
- seanalltogether 16y ago
  I think you've found a good problem, but I honestly think this is a very narrow solution. If anything people are going to be text messaging their locations to one another, not speaking them over the phone, in which case you'd just send a link. If they are on a call there's no guarantee that both parties can use data while talking.
  - iqster 16y ago
    Valid point. Right now, my GF and I are texting these codes to each other ... this wasn't something I imagined. Accessing the net while talking is another issue you rightly bring up.

bpeters 16y ago

Fun little tool. Have you thought about letting users select a location on a map and then generating a code to send out? Could be used to make interesting Geo-games amongst friends or have a code that reveals a location of a secret party! This could be used for businesses to embed in their site, and when they send out advertisements with a code, users would have to log on to their site and get the secret location.

iqster 16y ago
The advert/geo-game idea seems cool! Thank you.

BoppreH 16y ago

Very simple, almost no moving parts, working well. I just found the URL strange. Is this temporary?

iqster 16y ago
I wanted nearcode ... but someone already had that. Plus the idea of the noun "near-code" seemed to confuse people. I'll keep it up on the URL since it doesn't cost me much to run this thing.

RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago

> We're sorry. Your browser does not allow > us to retrieve your current location. Well, I guess that was inevitable for me. On all three of the browsers I use. It seems like a fun little tool, but I can't play. 8-( Anyone care to publish here the codes it generates for them?

bdfh42 16y ago
Sure 13-24-90
- RiderOfGiraffes 16y ago
  Huh - cool. We're actually in the same country, just about 40 miles apart.
  - bdfh42 16y ago
    We moved back to the UK last year after 10 years in France - quite enjoying living in a small English country town after the very rural life in SW France. Nice to know there are some local (ish) HNrs

jordanmessina 16y ago

This is similar to my weekend project http://mobileply.com http://mobileply.com although I currently have sequential IDs not codes. I'm soon going to implement unique codes like this. Mobileply would actually do real time tracking too. We could never find a way to make money from this type of app. It always seemed that the use case only would come up a few times a year and people would never remember your service over others. What were you planning on doing with this?

cfontes 16y ago
How many users do you have now ? how many requests per day ? It's a nice tool, maybe some marketing ? What you used to create the site ? nice design !
- jordanmessina 16y ago
  About 2000 people have used it. Like I said, can't really call them a user since this tool is useful maybe 4 times a year. We built it for ourselves because we just moved to Pittsburgh, PA and couldn't find our way around this city. We haven't tried any marketing, we're not even sure what niche we're serving still. It's built using Django, although I'm probably going to rewrite it to use either node or Tornado + web sockets. It's kind of a hodgepodge implementation right now that was built just as a proof of concept to start.

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lalitm 16y ago

incorrect location by about 15 kms

iqster 16y ago
I'm just using the location given by the browser (it might be IP-based, wifi-based, GPS-based etc). I am surprised how inaccurate it is sometimes on my desktop. Thankfully, I get relatively accurate location most of the time on my phone.

Tycho 16y ago

Small quibble, but could you make it so the hyphens in the code aren't necessary? (or at least so you don't have to manually type them) Oh and it was deadly accurate when I tried on iPad. I could see this being useful if you've lost track of people at a carnival or something

iqster 16y ago
Yup ... I'll make the hyphens optional. Thanks for the feedback!

jporta 16y ago

13-16-95, 64-67-64. You need to make unique codes for same locations.

iqster 16y ago
I did think about that but the messages that you leave someone are likely going to be different, and hence you need different codes.

FR6 16y ago

-Why using a code and not simply a URL (ex.: http://nearfeed.com/667568 http://nearfeed.com/667568)? It will be less manipulation then having to copy/paste the code in a textbox. -Why using a code and not just giving coordinates? -Not really accurate for me, 2 km away. I know that its not on your side it has to do with my IP. To obtain the coordinates have you tried another geoip service besides Google Maps? Like maxmind database (http://www.maxmind.com http://www.maxmind.com)?

krisrak 16y ago
I created a similar project to share/track real-time location as you move, its an iPhone app that shares location and generates a url that can be opened by friends on any browser. It not just static location, but will show your real-time location, if you move, then the marker on url moves. Check out http://shaloc.com http://shaloc.com use invite code "hackernews" to get iPhone app promo code to download. Give feedback, thanks.

xobgub 16y ago

FYI: Glympse already does this with a pretty UI and all.

iqster 16y ago
Glympse looks pretty sweet. Thanks for the pointer. The point of this tool is to be extremely simple (no accounts or login). Continuous tracking is often useful but it kills batteries and raises some additional privacy concerns.