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Apple under Steve Jobs 2005 and Apple under Tim Cook now are different beasts. Steve would go crazy at the executives releasing all the buggy/unpolished product

Apple under Steve Jobs 2005 and Apple under Tim Cook now are different beasts. Steve would go crazy at the executives releasing all the buggy/unpolished products Apple released recently. Imagine the Macbook keyboard or the Touchbar being released under Steve. iPod was a great product. But time has changed, and I would be cautious in extrapolating that experience to Apple today. I can't imagine Apple executives saying "We change the keyboard because we love typing".

thatfunkymunki 7y ago
I feel the same way. Imagine how Steve Jobs would feel if he found out you could go to an Apple store, buy a Macbook and an iPhone, and still have to buy an additional cable to connect them together!
- saagarjha 7y ago
  He'd probably be satisfied knowing that a significant fraction of iPhone users never connect their phone to their computer.
- npo9 7y ago
  You don’t. Anything you need to do can be done via iCloud. Also the newest generation comes with a usb-c to lightening port.
- ridiculous_fish 7y ago
  He would wonder why they need a physical cable to connect at all.
  - shantly 7y ago
    To charge, if you forget, misplace, or just don't want to carry your phone charger brick.
    - ridiculous_fish 7y ago
      The iMac caught so much flak for omitting the floppy drive.
      - shantly 7y ago
        It's be less ridiculous if the iphone didn't come with a USB cable. It did, though, just the "wrong" one (I understand from elsewhere in the thread they've finally fixed that, however).
- twhb 7y ago
  You think that’s bad, you should’ve seen the work I had to do to plug my Model 3 into my Model S.
- sjwright 7y ago
  No, Steve would correctly point out that the supplied cable isn’t for connecting to a computer, it’s to charge the phone or dock with a car. Connecting an iPhone to a Mac is a niche activity these days, and anyone who needs to do that surely understands what USB-A and USB-C are.
  - shantly 7y ago
    "The future's USB-C! Convert!" "So, the iphone charging cable will connect to USB-C?" "What, are you crazy? Literally everything is USB-A."
ridiculous_fish 7y ago
Apple had plenty of misfires under Steve as well. iTools, Apple Hi-Fi, etc. People forget. The crappy MBP keyboard illustrates my point. I suspect that Apple neglected the Mac for a long time (in many ways) because its executives switched to using primarily iPads [1]. 1: https://appleinsider.com/articles/15/11/09/apple-ceo-tim-cook-says-he-travels-with-just-an-ipad-pro-and-iphone https://appleinsider.com/articles/15/11/09/apple-ceo-tim-coo...
ceejayoz 7y ago
> Imagine the Macbook keyboard or the Touchbar being released under Steve. Imagine the G4 cube, or the puck mouse, or the Motorola ROKR.
- macintux 7y ago
  Watching video of Steve introducing the ROKR makes it very clear he was...underenthused.
1propionyl 7y ago
Really? Remember Ping?

thatfunkymunki 7y ago

I feel the same way. Imagine how Steve Jobs would feel if he found out you could go to an Apple store, buy a Macbook and an iPhone, and still have to buy an additional cable to connect them together!

saagarjha 7y ago
He'd probably be satisfied knowing that a significant fraction of iPhone users never connect their phone to their computer.
npo9 7y ago
You don’t. Anything you need to do can be done via iCloud. Also the newest generation comes with a usb-c to lightening port.
ridiculous_fish 7y ago
He would wonder why they need a physical cable to connect at all.
- shantly 7y ago
  To charge, if you forget, misplace, or just don't want to carry your phone charger brick.
  - ridiculous_fish 7y ago
    The iMac caught so much flak for omitting the floppy drive.
    - shantly 7y ago
      It's be less ridiculous if the iphone didn't come with a USB cable. It did, though, just the "wrong" one (I understand from elsewhere in the thread they've finally fixed that, however).
twhb 7y ago
You think that’s bad, you should’ve seen the work I had to do to plug my Model 3 into my Model S.
sjwright 7y ago
No, Steve would correctly point out that the supplied cable isn’t for connecting to a computer, it’s to charge the phone or dock with a car. Connecting an iPhone to a Mac is a niche activity these days, and anyone who needs to do that surely understands what USB-A and USB-C are.
- shantly 7y ago
  "The future's USB-C! Convert!" "So, the iphone charging cable will connect to USB-C?" "What, are you crazy? Literally everything is USB-A."

ridiculous_fish 7y ago

Apple had plenty of misfires under Steve as well. iTools, Apple Hi-Fi, etc. People forget. The crappy MBP keyboard illustrates my point. I suspect that Apple neglected the Mac for a long time (in many ways) because its executives switched to using primarily iPads [1]. 1: https://appleinsider.com/articles/15/11/09/apple-ceo-tim-cook-says-he-travels-with-just-an-ipad-pro-and-iphone https://appleinsider.com/articles/15/11/09/apple-ceo-tim-coo...

ceejayoz 7y ago

> Imagine the Macbook keyboard or the Touchbar being released under Steve. Imagine the G4 cube, or the puck mouse, or the Motorola ROKR.

macintux 7y ago
Watching video of Steve introducing the ROKR makes it very clear he was...underenthused.

1propionyl 7y ago

Really? Remember Ping?