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This is a weird comment that, in my experience, doesn't represent the reality of today's stay-at-home parents. I'd love to see hard data on this, but let me sha
by giggles_giggles 7y ago
This is a weird comment that, in my experience, doesn't represent the reality of today's stay-at-home parents. I'd love to see hard data on this, but let me share my anecdotes in response to the middle paragraph here. My older sister has been a stay at home mother for almost a decade, so I'll share my observations from being an uncle:
> It is normal for children to be cared for by many adults throughout the day, from birth - be they older relatives or simply members of the community.
My sister engages in a community of stay-at-home parents and homeschooling parents (there is a lot of overlap and she also homeschools) to provide her children with socialization and to also share the burden of parenting all the small ones.
By contrast, in daycare, where my sister and mother both worked professionally at different times, it is common for adults to be split between many children, usually as many as seven or eight per adult (by regulation).
> It is abnormal for one person to have to deal with all of their energy and issues.
See above
> It is normal for children to wander and play and experience a wide and varied world. It is abnormal for them to be kept in a small, unchanging indoor space.
Funny that this is an example! Many daycares are inside only or maybe have a small playground. By the time the child is 5, they're expected to sit still in actual school all day! My nephew and nieces get the pleasure of participating in something called "Forest School" where they're able to socialize with other children their age and learn about nature, shockingly, outside in nature. They're also always allowed in the backyard and have friends in their neighborhood as well. So actually from what I've seen, homeschooled kids and kids with a stay at home parent actually get _more_ outside time. It's the poor kids in day care and school that don't get to go outside.
> It is normal for new parents, especially new mothers, to be intensely supported by their community. It is abnormal for them to be left alone unsupported. It is normal for homemakers to accomplish their daily tasks communally and to be active in their communities. It is abnormal for them to endure years of social isolation, primarily spending time with their children.
Again, see above. Maybe this varies a lot by locale, but here in Texas, none of your criticisms actually apply to the community of stay at home moms and homeschoolers that I have observed in my community.
- ip26 7y agoHow does one find these stay-at-home communities? By gods, we've tried for years.
- giggles_giggles 7y agoThrough church, mostly, I believe. In her case at least.
- logjammin 7y agoNot sure why this is greyed out, but I appreciated your comment. Is Forest School a thing beyond where you live, do you know?
- giggles_giggles 7y agoI believe it is and in fact I think I read an article here on HN not too long ago that talked about it. There seems to be an associated organization: https://www.forestschoolassociation.org/what-is-forest-school/ https://www.forestschoolassociation.org/what-is-forest-schoo...
- Dove 7y agoYour experience sounds lovely. I think you may have misinterpreted my frustration with the standard experience and expectation of stay at home parenting as advocating for widespread use of daycare. I do think that option is a little closer to normalcy, but I also think it is still not very close. I suppose it depends on how it is done. Your experience sounds even better to me. I do not know exactly what a healthy experience would look like in this society, but I expect there are people who have figured it out on a small scale. I am pleased to hear this appears to be the case. I wish your community every success and hope your lifestyle spreads. The commonly accepted narrative of what we as parents are supposed to be doing, at least the one presented to me, is something I find very unreasonable. To be completely clear, I am not criticizing parents who stay at home to raise their children. I am criticizing a society which expects them to do it alone. I am not advocating daycare as a panacea. I am saying any communal support at all represents a step away from the insanity. It sounds like your local community does not have the expectation that stay at home parents should naturally be superheroes. Please take over the world. :)