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I'm not sure . In a very large share of people work either in bullshit jobs or unnecessary jobs or are replacablable. On the other hand, if children would get

by petra 7y ago

I'm not sure . In a very large share of people work either in bullshit jobs or unnecessary jobs or are replacablable. On the other hand, if children would get more love,maybe more of them would grow to be exceptional?

com2kid 7y ago
The problem is there is no easy way to know in large swaths what jobs are BS or unnecessary. And of course someone could have a BS job and then later move on to a job that does have an impact! Trying to evaluate the worth of people is pretty much futile, and whenever it has been attempted there have been huge negative outcomes. And even during less extreme historical circumstances, it is just expensive to do, the recent example being drug testing for welfare recipients. The cost to do the drug testing far exceeded the money the government saved denying benefits. In the end being non-judgemental and treating people equally turns out to be a rather economically efficient solution.
- petra 7y ago
  My view is that 99% of jobs are either unnecessary or replacable. Heck, even when we talk about Newton's discoveries , other people on similar stuff at the time and would have gotten there. And if it's 99%, why not let the family choose which parent stays with the kid ? Combine that with paying really well to trully important jobs. You'll get reasonably good results with that.
  - com2kid 7y ago
    > My view is that 99% of jobs are either unnecessary or replacable. I think this is a very upper middle class white collar view. Over 2.1% of Americans work as cooks (!!)[1] and another 3.6% work as grounds cleaning. Just keeping buildings somewhat functional is a lot of work. Then you have all the people working on sales floors, not everyone wants to buy from Amazon! 3.5% in construction. 7.8% spread across all maintenance occupations just keeping everything glued together. Another 5.9% in production (manufacturing), even with the incredible amount of automation that has taken place there. So we're well above 10%, and that is just taking a look at hard to automate categories that have more than 1% of people in them! https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/emp-by-detailed-occupation.htm https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/emp-by-detailed-occupation.ht...
    - petra 7y ago
      Some of those jobs are important(1), but most replacable - many people can do that job. And I'm not saying thry don't carry done value , just that raising your kids well, in my view, is much more important. (1)are all cooks and restaurant that necessary ?
      - com2kid 7y ago
        > (1)are all cooks and restaurant that necessary ? The idea seems pretty ubiquitous, as soon as a society gets any amount of wealth you'll find people being paid to cook food at scale. And cooking is one of those things that scales up very well, it doesn't have to mean fancy sit down restaurants. There are still a few places I can grab food for cheaper than what I'd be able to prepare it myself at that quality level, though sadly those types of venues have seemingly been on a decline for decades.
        petra 7y ago
        With modern preservation methods, factory made food can reach very high quality. Google the french chain picard, or micvac. Maybe not for fried food, and salads(easy to make). but for most other types of food it can work.

by petra 7y ago

com2kid 7y ago

The problem is there is no easy way to know in large swaths what jobs are BS or unnecessary. And of course someone could have a BS job and then later move on to a job that does have an impact! Trying to evaluate the worth of people is pretty much futile, and whenever it has been attempted there have been huge negative outcomes. And even during less extreme historical circumstances, it is just expensive to do, the recent example being drug testing for welfare recipients. The cost to do the drug testing far exceeded the money the government saved denying benefits. In the end being non-judgemental and treating people equally turns out to be a rather economically efficient solution.

petra 7y ago
My view is that 99% of jobs are either unnecessary or replacable. Heck, even when we talk about Newton's discoveries , other people on similar stuff at the time and would have gotten there. And if it's 99%, why not let the family choose which parent stays with the kid ? Combine that with paying really well to trully important jobs. You'll get reasonably good results with that.
- com2kid 7y ago
  > My view is that 99% of jobs are either unnecessary or replacable. I think this is a very upper middle class white collar view. Over 2.1% of Americans work as cooks (!!)[1] and another 3.6% work as grounds cleaning. Just keeping buildings somewhat functional is a lot of work. Then you have all the people working on sales floors, not everyone wants to buy from Amazon! 3.5% in construction. 7.8% spread across all maintenance occupations just keeping everything glued together. Another 5.9% in production (manufacturing), even with the incredible amount of automation that has taken place there. So we're well above 10%, and that is just taking a look at hard to automate categories that have more than 1% of people in them! https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/emp-by-detailed-occupation.htm https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/emp-by-detailed-occupation.ht...
  - petra 7y ago
    Some of those jobs are important(1), but most replacable - many people can do that job. And I'm not saying thry don't carry done value , just that raising your kids well, in my view, is much more important. (1)are all cooks and restaurant that necessary ?
    - com2kid 7y ago
      > (1)are all cooks and restaurant that necessary ? The idea seems pretty ubiquitous, as soon as a society gets any amount of wealth you'll find people being paid to cook food at scale. And cooking is one of those things that scales up very well, it doesn't have to mean fancy sit down restaurants. There are still a few places I can grab food for cheaper than what I'd be able to prepare it myself at that quality level, though sadly those types of venues have seemingly been on a decline for decades.
      - petra 7y ago
        With modern preservation methods, factory made food can reach very high quality. Google the french chain picard, or micvac. Maybe not for fried food, and salads(easy to make). but for most other types of food it can work.