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As to how the laws got where they are Lee Smolin and Roberto Ungar say that it's possible they were not always the way they are and that they evolved spontaneou

As to how the laws got where they are Lee Smolin and Roberto Ungar say that it's possible they were not always the way they are and that they evolved spontaneously over time. And that the spontaneity just is the way things are i.e. there's no explanation for it. At least that's my recollection from reading their book. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singular_Universe_and_the_Reality_of_Time https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singular_Universe_and_th... The other explanation seems to be the multiverse. i.e. we just got a random set of self consistent laws. Again there seems to be no explanation as to why or how the multiverse came to be, is there?

jordanpg 7y ago
> not always the way they are and that they evolved spontaneously over time But how did they get any way at all? How and why do they evolve? > multiverse. i.e. we just got a random set of self consistent laws. This raises even more questions. Why are there any multiverses with any laws at all? From where did the stuff in the multiverses come from? What initiated this chain of multiverse creation, or why is it inevitable? A bootstrapping theory would explain why anything is inevitable, or why there is something rather than nothing. Otherwise it is just a low-level physics theory.
- smallnamespace 7y ago
  I don’t think what you’re asking for is possible, and the answer lies more in the realm of philosophy than in physics. You can always keep asking the question ‘why?’ At some point, either you have just accept something as fundamental, or the answer justifies itself, or you have an infinite regress of whys.
  - jordanpg 7y ago
    I agree with this generally, but I don't think questions like "why are the laws of physics the way they are" are obviously questions for philosophers only and I'm not simply asking "why?" Only very low-level ontological questions meet this criteria, like "why is there something rather than nothing," but even then, I am open to the possibility that there are reasonable explanations for these things that we just can't articulate yet.
- hota_mazi 7y ago
  > How and why do they evolve? Asking "why" is begging the question, though. Maybe there is simply no reason behind it. They change because they change.
- Geee 7y ago
  It's insanely difficult to understand why there is something.
  - sunstone 7y ago
    Now there's an understatement for you.

jordanpg 7y ago

> not always the way they are and that they evolved spontaneously over time But how did they get any way at all? How and why do they evolve? > multiverse. i.e. we just got a random set of self consistent laws. This raises even more questions. Why are there any multiverses with any laws at all? From where did the stuff in the multiverses come from? What initiated this chain of multiverse creation, or why is it inevitable? A bootstrapping theory would explain why anything is inevitable, or why there is something rather than nothing. Otherwise it is just a low-level physics theory.

smallnamespace 7y ago
I don’t think what you’re asking for is possible, and the answer lies more in the realm of philosophy than in physics. You can always keep asking the question ‘why?’ At some point, either you have just accept something as fundamental, or the answer justifies itself, or you have an infinite regress of whys.
- jordanpg 7y ago
  I agree with this generally, but I don't think questions like "why are the laws of physics the way they are" are obviously questions for philosophers only and I'm not simply asking "why?" Only very low-level ontological questions meet this criteria, like "why is there something rather than nothing," but even then, I am open to the possibility that there are reasonable explanations for these things that we just can't articulate yet.
hota_mazi 7y ago
> How and why do they evolve? Asking "why" is begging the question, though. Maybe there is simply no reason behind it. They change because they change.
Geee 7y ago
It's insanely difficult to understand why there is something.
- sunstone 7y ago
  Now there's an understatement for you.