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Not that different than consumers using tracking pixels to see open time/place. I use streak CRM for gmail and have learned to not mention the details of what

Not that different than consumers using tracking pixels to see open time/place. I use streak CRM for gmail and have learned to not mention the details of what I see so as to not freak people out. The funny thing is, I can see 0.00001% of what the commercial trackers can see, but people don't bat an eye on that. They allow images to appear on emails by default, they don't block javascript, they keep all the tracking cookies no their machine, etc.

scarejunba 7y ago
Gmail proxies image downloads, right? And it doesn't wait for actual email open so how do you do open time / place?
- 4ntonius8lock 7y ago
  Not sure, as I said, I use streak CRM. I know they use pixel image based tracking. Exactly how they do it, I'm not 100% sure. I know you need to give it 'access' within your gmail, so I'm guessing it's something within gmails ability to 'play nice' with apps (API based? not sure) - Though your comment has now got me curious.
tejtm 7y ago
Consumers are not the ones using tracking pixels
- 4ntonius8lock 7y ago
  Consumer here checking in who does use tracking pixels. Yes, I'm a consultant, but all my emails go out with tracking, it's how I have it set up.
pweezy 7y ago
I've been on the receiving end of this from one or two online invitation services (Paperless Post, maybe?). Had a friend say "can you come to my party or what? You're the only one that still hasn't opened the invitation email". I never had to sign up for an account to imagine what the service was doing - showing "opened" stats straight out of Sendgrid or the like. I had a similar reaction - email open tracking is something you assume, by default, that regular individuals can't do. And I found it very invasive, even though I know the same tracking exists on all the non-personal email I received. Since then I've made it a point not to open those invitations until I know I'm ready to respond - since "I never saw the email" is a less harmful conclusion for my snooping friend to draw than "I opened the email and decided not to respond."
- tomjen3 7y ago
  If that becomes more common, I will have to just only use Thunderbird, with its build in blocking tools, because it is one of the features I loath most in Facebook Messenger.
- 4ntonius8lock 7y ago
  Just make it so that images don't appear by default. I only open images if I want to. Opening an email... I can't possibly understand why anyone would allow images to open by default. Based on the people I communicate with, less than 5% block image opening. Also, I don't get why I'm being downvoted.

scarejunba 7y ago

Gmail proxies image downloads, right? And it doesn't wait for actual email open so how do you do open time / place?

4ntonius8lock 7y ago
Not sure, as I said, I use streak CRM. I know they use pixel image based tracking. Exactly how they do it, I'm not 100% sure. I know you need to give it 'access' within your gmail, so I'm guessing it's something within gmails ability to 'play nice' with apps (API based? not sure) - Though your comment has now got me curious.

tejtm 7y ago

Consumers are not the ones using tracking pixels

4ntonius8lock 7y ago
Consumer here checking in who does use tracking pixels. Yes, I'm a consultant, but all my emails go out with tracking, it's how I have it set up.

pweezy 7y ago

I've been on the receiving end of this from one or two online invitation services (Paperless Post, maybe?). Had a friend say "can you come to my party or what? You're the only one that still hasn't opened the invitation email". I never had to sign up for an account to imagine what the service was doing - showing "opened" stats straight out of Sendgrid or the like. I had a similar reaction - email open tracking is something you assume, by default, that regular individuals can't do. And I found it very invasive, even though I know the same tracking exists on all the non-personal email I received. Since then I've made it a point not to open those invitations until I know I'm ready to respond - since "I never saw the email" is a less harmful conclusion for my snooping friend to draw than "I opened the email and decided not to respond."

tomjen3 7y ago
If that becomes more common, I will have to just only use Thunderbird, with its build in blocking tools, because it is one of the features I loath most in Facebook Messenger.
4ntonius8lock 7y ago
Just make it so that images don't appear by default. I only open images if I want to. Opening an email... I can't possibly understand why anyone would allow images to open by default. Based on the people I communicate with, less than 5% block image opening. Also, I don't get why I'm being downvoted.