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The bar is so much lower for men than for women. For a man to be promoted by another man all you have to do is enjoy going out for a beer (or as the article men

by really2020 7y ago

The bar is so much lower for men than for women. For a man to be promoted by another man all you have to do is enjoy going out for a beer (or as the article mentions a smoke). This is not some societal male backlash, it is actually how things work. The level of incompetence that a man can exhibit and still get promoted is astounding. Probably the reason why women promote men less frequently is that women have higher standards, since they themselves are held to higher standards.

commandlinefan 7y ago
That's not even remotely true.
- filoleg 7y ago
  Yeah, I definitely sense some saltiness in the parent comment. While he is right that it is totally possible to encounter such a workplace, i would argue that if you control for the gender disparity in the workplace, it becomes just as likely to encounter such a situation, but with genders switched. And even then, neither of those two scenarios are more likely than just straight up a regular workplace where a boss straight up doesn’t care about your gender and promotes based on the usual “business impact, performance, team impact” metrics. I realize this is just an anecdote, but my previous team was over 50% women (the boss was a female as well), while my current team is much more male dominated, and i have noticed pretty much zero differences when it comes to promotions and the breakdown of those when it comes to gender. Talking about my old team, it had the typical subgroups, like high performers who got promoted fast, slightly slower performers, people who were temporarily in a performance rut (who eventually got out of it), etc. And I observed no anomalies in gender disparities between all those groups, as they were pretty gender balanced and (imo) very fair, given my knowledge.
- antisthenes 7y ago
  A good reason why they had to make a throwaway. Comment was pure troll bait.
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commandlinefan 7y ago

That's not even remotely true.

filoleg 7y ago
Yeah, I definitely sense some saltiness in the parent comment. While he is right that it is totally possible to encounter such a workplace, i would argue that if you control for the gender disparity in the workplace, it becomes just as likely to encounter such a situation, but with genders switched. And even then, neither of those two scenarios are more likely than just straight up a regular workplace where a boss straight up doesn’t care about your gender and promotes based on the usual “business impact, performance, team impact” metrics. I realize this is just an anecdote, but my previous team was over 50% women (the boss was a female as well), while my current team is much more male dominated, and i have noticed pretty much zero differences when it comes to promotions and the breakdown of those when it comes to gender. Talking about my old team, it had the typical subgroups, like high performers who got promoted fast, slightly slower performers, people who were temporarily in a performance rut (who eventually got out of it), etc. And I observed no anomalies in gender disparities between all those groups, as they were pretty gender balanced and (imo) very fair, given my knowledge.
antisthenes 7y ago
A good reason why they had to make a throwaway. Comment was pure troll bait.

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