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I really don't get HN sometimes. The russian doping ban article was flagged fore political, yet this one stays up even tho I feel this is more political https:/

I really don't get HN sometimes. The russian doping ban article was flagged fore political, yet this one stays up even tho I feel this is more political https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21742239 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21742239 And before everyone says "Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate". I'm not complaining just observing situations like this + HN lacks appropriate open ways for meta discussion (which Reddit actually does better), you can only do this in submission comments

billfruit 7y ago
I thought Russia doping one would at least have some matter for debate and discussion. This news is just a factoid.
- notkaiho 7y ago
  If you look at the comments below there's actual discussion about whether a younger person could be an effective national leader. So it's not "just" a factoid.
ddevault 7y ago
The doping article is more likely to stir up drama. People have strong feelings about Russia, drugs, the olympics, etc. This article is just interesting - it may involve political figures but there's not really much politics at play. To quote the on-topic guidelines: "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity".
wayoutthere 7y ago
HN, like any subreddit, has inherent bias in its moderation. I suspect the fact that Russia was involved prompted the removal of the other story -- if I were a moderator, I would just expect any thread involving Russia and international politics to be a dumpster fire. Finland is a bit easier for Americans to avoid passionate political opinions with.
- hos234 7y ago
  I would like a left vote/right vote. Would be interesting to see the posts where both counts cancel under a Header of Neutral (non polarizing) content. Similarly content(posts AND comments) getting "high" left and right counts can be sent off under separate Headers for the respective fan clubs to feast on.
  - wayoutthere 7y ago
    I mean, you've effectively described Facebook's news feed so I don't think HN needs to build it.
- dang 7y ago
  Moderators didn't do anything to either that submission or this one. Users flagged them. I did change the title on this one to match what the article currently says; that's all.
  - mellosouls 7y ago
    Fwiw The original title as I recall also reflected the title of the article (which seems to have changed since I submitted it); I clipped the "Finnish" prefix as it exceeded HN permitted length.
    - dang 7y ago
      No worries, and yup, I had a feeling that happened. (That's why I said "currently".)
mellosouls 7y ago
To be fair (I'm the submitter) I thought of it as more of an interesting article about social progress and the leadership in some areas of countries not always in the news - rather than being a political story per se. From the guidelines: Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. (My emphasis, and I've clipped the addendum about if it would be featured on TV news it might not be relevant here).

billfruit 7y ago

I thought Russia doping one would at least have some matter for debate and discussion. This news is just a factoid.

notkaiho 7y ago
If you look at the comments below there's actual discussion about whether a younger person could be an effective national leader. So it's not "just" a factoid.

ddevault 7y ago

The doping article is more likely to stir up drama. People have strong feelings about Russia, drugs, the olympics, etc. This article is just interesting - it may involve political figures but there's not really much politics at play. To quote the on-topic guidelines: "anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity".

wayoutthere 7y ago

HN, like any subreddit, has inherent bias in its moderation. I suspect the fact that Russia was involved prompted the removal of the other story -- if I were a moderator, I would just expect any thread involving Russia and international politics to be a dumpster fire. Finland is a bit easier for Americans to avoid passionate political opinions with.

hos234 7y ago
I would like a left vote/right vote. Would be interesting to see the posts where both counts cancel under a Header of Neutral (non polarizing) content. Similarly content(posts AND comments) getting "high" left and right counts can be sent off under separate Headers for the respective fan clubs to feast on.
- wayoutthere 7y ago
  I mean, you've effectively described Facebook's news feed so I don't think HN needs to build it.
dang 7y ago
Moderators didn't do anything to either that submission or this one. Users flagged them. I did change the title on this one to match what the article currently says; that's all.
- mellosouls 7y ago
  Fwiw The original title as I recall also reflected the title of the article (which seems to have changed since I submitted it); I clipped the "Finnish" prefix as it exceeded HN permitted length.
  - dang 7y ago
    No worries, and yup, I had a feeling that happened. (That's why I said "currently".)

mellosouls 7y ago

To be fair (I'm the submitter) I thought of it as more of an interesting article about social progress and the leadership in some areas of countries not always in the news - rather than being a political story per se. From the guidelines: Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. (My emphasis, and I've clipped the addendum about if it would be featured on TV news it might not be relevant here).