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I'm confused why Archive.org is attempting to archive and expose to the public what is essentially private communications? My usage of Yahoo groups in the earl

I'm confused why Archive.org is attempting to archive and expose to the public what is essentially private communications? My usage of Yahoo groups in the early 2000s was mostly to communicate with my high school / college / dorm groups and the last thing I want is for embarrassing messages from 20 years ago sent to a private group to be archived.

saagarjha 7y ago
Yahoo Groups can be configured to allow public access.
Diagon 7y ago
Many groups are public. Many have owners that requested the group be archived.
rahuldottech 7y ago
They are only archiving data on publicly accessible groups - many of which contain lots of discussions worth archiving.
betamaxthetape 7y ago
Clarification - we're not archive.org. Archive Team and Internet Archive are completely separate. And we're only archiving things that "any guy on the internet" can see. If someone can access the messages simply by joining a group (with no moderator approval), I'd argue it's fair game. We're not going to be unreasonable, though. If something private slips through and we receive a takedown request from the author, we typically remove it.
- Diagon 7y ago
  But the data will be going to Archive.org, correct?
  - PopeRigby 7y ago
    Yep. That's where they upload everything.
- dependenttypes 7y ago
  Just wondering, if the author of a post or the administrator of a group makes a takedown request regarding non-private* info, would you delete it? * and by that I mean something that is not a telephone number, an address, a real life name, and other similar things.
  - dependenttypes 7y ago
    Also, I am looking at https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Mastodon https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Mastodon and some jobs there (such as berries.space) give 404 when I try to download the data. Do you have any idea why that could be?
dependenttypes 7y ago
> what is essentially private communications If they have access to it, it is not private.
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saagarjha 7y ago

Yahoo Groups can be configured to allow public access.

Diagon 7y ago

Many groups are public. Many have owners that requested the group be archived.

rahuldottech 7y ago

They are only archiving data on publicly accessible groups - many of which contain lots of discussions worth archiving.

betamaxthetape 7y ago

Clarification - we're not archive.org. Archive Team and Internet Archive are completely separate. And we're only archiving things that "any guy on the internet" can see. If someone can access the messages simply by joining a group (with no moderator approval), I'd argue it's fair game. We're not going to be unreasonable, though. If something private slips through and we receive a takedown request from the author, we typically remove it.

Diagon 7y ago
But the data will be going to Archive.org, correct?
- PopeRigby 7y ago
  Yep. That's where they upload everything.
dependenttypes 7y ago
Just wondering, if the author of a post or the administrator of a group makes a takedown request regarding non-private* info, would you delete it? * and by that I mean something that is not a telephone number, an address, a real life name, and other similar things.
- dependenttypes 7y ago
  Also, I am looking at https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Mastodon https://www.archiveteam.org/index.php?title=Mastodon and some jobs there (such as berries.space) give 404 when I try to download the data. Do you have any idea why that could be?

dependenttypes 7y ago

> what is essentially private communications If they have access to it, it is not private.

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