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Long time lurker here, but I had to create an account to voice my opinion: I am a really happy Windows 10 user! Please, don't judge what others (dis)like and m

by lurker1970 7y ago

Long time lurker here, but I had to create an account to voice my opinion: I am a really happy Windows 10 user! Please, don't judge what others (dis)like and make sweeping generalizations. Many of the issues you mentioned can be addressed (even if imperfectly by your standard). For example, you can pause updates for over a month, then when that time is up, pause again right away. I always get to choose when my computers update. And Windows 10 comes with many improvements over Windows 7. [0][1] Some highlights for me: - Full boot in under 10 seconds (with an SSD) - Dark theme - Windows Sandbox (to run un-trusted/one-off apps in a light VM) - Multiple desktops - Support for new hardware innovations: NVMe, High DPI, HDR, Raytracing But it is fine if you don't consider these improvements as important enough over the cons of Windows 10. Just don't pretend that they don't exist. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_8 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_8 [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_10 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Features_new_to_Windows_10

wott 7y ago
> - Full boot in under 10 seconds (with an SSD) And then 45 minutes of updates: 15 in the foreground, and then 30 in the background, during which the laptop is still basically unusable (it can take up to 2 minutes for a CTRL-ALT-DEL to come into effect...) despite pretending to be active. Great.
- klingonopera 7y ago
  Also, that's hardly a feature of Windows 10, more of your SSD and UEFI, as well as the fact that the Windows 10 default doesn't really shutdown anymore, it's now actually a form of hibernation: https://www.howtogeek.com/349114/shutting-down-doesnt-fully-shut-down-windows-10-but-restarting-it-does/ https://www.howtogeek.com/349114/shutting-down-doesnt-fully-... Also, FWIW, I've a laptop with Win7 and an mSATA SSD, booting in legacy BIOS mode with the "No GUI boot" option, and it's there in 10 seconds, too.
generatorguy 7y ago
My windows 7 laptops from 2012 with ssd boot in 10 seconds too.
folkhack 7y ago
> Please, don't judge what others (dis)like and make sweeping generalizations. It's still adware/spyware if you're not running a LTSC/LTSB build of the software. I'll judge it all I like: Windows 10 is what we historically considered to be malware.

wott 7y ago

> - Full boot in under 10 seconds (with an SSD) And then 45 minutes of updates: 15 in the foreground, and then 30 in the background, during which the laptop is still basically unusable (it can take up to 2 minutes for a CTRL-ALT-DEL to come into effect...) despite pretending to be active. Great.

klingonopera 7y ago
Also, that's hardly a feature of Windows 10, more of your SSD and UEFI, as well as the fact that the Windows 10 default doesn't really shutdown anymore, it's now actually a form of hibernation: https://www.howtogeek.com/349114/shutting-down-doesnt-fully-shut-down-windows-10-but-restarting-it-does/ https://www.howtogeek.com/349114/shutting-down-doesnt-fully-... Also, FWIW, I've a laptop with Win7 and an mSATA SSD, booting in legacy BIOS mode with the "No GUI boot" option, and it's there in 10 seconds, too.

generatorguy 7y ago

My windows 7 laptops from 2012 with ssd boot in 10 seconds too.

folkhack 7y ago

> Please, don't judge what others (dis)like and make sweeping generalizations. It's still adware/spyware if you're not running a LTSC/LTSB build of the software. I'll judge it all I like: Windows 10 is what we historically considered to be malware.