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I absolutely don't understand what people who claim "Windows 10 is great!" are seeing, it's feels absolutely surreal! It's a mess from a UI perspective, and fr

I absolutely don't understand what people who claim "Windows 10 is great!" are seeing, it's feels absolutely surreal! It's a mess from a UI perspective, and from any other perspective, it's basically the same OS it has always been.

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HenryBemis 7y ago
Since I can't add Windows7 on my laptop, I am hanging on (like the cat in the poster) to Win8.1. I am using this "Classic Shell" tool that gives me the Win7 look/desktop/menu/etc. Don't Windows 10 have a similar tool? I've heard from IT folks that Win10Pro does a better job as an OS on CPU/RAM management, and that once you cut out all the crapware (enhance privacy/stop services/use firewall/etc).. doesn't this make it "better"? I am thinking to run Win10Pro on VM to see if I can make it half-decent. As another writer mentioned above, it won't be far that we won't be able to find hardware that runs in previous Win versions.
- NeedMoreTea 7y ago
  The nearest I've seen is Stardock's Windowblinds that gives a very rough approximation of 7 (among other themes). Not aeroglass, and I guess is limited by what 10 allows them to do, but what I saw looked like Win-7-flattened. I'd prefer a more convincing copy, complete with Aeroglass. I haven't tried it as I have memories of Windowblinds from the days of XP ... it was fragile and flaky. They might have fixed that, but I'm wary. I really dislike that modern OS's decided theming is verboten, and all must wear the party uniform.
- jotm 7y ago
  Startisback++ iirc. I actually don't have a problem with the UI, since I only use the start menu and the good old file explorer. Feck those UWP apps.
- windexh8er 7y ago
  Classic Shell is now developed under the name Open-Shell. I was discussing how I debloat non-LTSC instances to a very Microsoft-centric friend and he showed me how Open-Shell is one of the first pieces he installs to take it back to any form of normality. I did inform him he still needs to debloat the spyware/junk and disable telemetry. I've generally found Geek Uninstaller [1] and O&O ShutUp10 [2] work well together to take out the majority. [0] https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu [1] https://geekuninstaller.com/ https://geekuninstaller.com/ [2] https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
  - klingonopera 7y ago
    All this work... for something I paid for! ...yeah, well, might as well use Linux then, if I'm going to spend the same time configuring both. At least with Linux, I'm fighting a shortage of developers and a lack of official support, and not the OS itself.
jotm 7y ago
Nothing's great about Win10 (7 is just as good, hell even XP would be fine if it was still maintained haha) The software available is great beyond doubt
qwerty456127 7y ago
I use Windows 10 (home edition) at work and have no real problems. There is Win7-like panel, Explorer for files and the command prompt - what else do you need? They have spoiled the configuration dialogs - finding where to tweak something would be hard if I couldn't just Google it, but you just configure it once and forget it. Mysteriously it has also never shown any ads to me although I didn't do anything for this. Windows 10 is not great but it's ok. And I totally love the option to enable keyboard input autocomlpletion (if only I could also enable this on Linux and Mac) - that's amazing when you have to write in foreign languages.

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HenryBemis 7y ago

Since I can't add Windows7 on my laptop, I am hanging on (like the cat in the poster) to Win8.1. I am using this "Classic Shell" tool that gives me the Win7 look/desktop/menu/etc. Don't Windows 10 have a similar tool? I've heard from IT folks that Win10Pro does a better job as an OS on CPU/RAM management, and that once you cut out all the crapware (enhance privacy/stop services/use firewall/etc).. doesn't this make it "better"? I am thinking to run Win10Pro on VM to see if I can make it half-decent. As another writer mentioned above, it won't be far that we won't be able to find hardware that runs in previous Win versions.

NeedMoreTea 7y ago
The nearest I've seen is Stardock's Windowblinds that gives a very rough approximation of 7 (among other themes). Not aeroglass, and I guess is limited by what 10 allows them to do, but what I saw looked like Win-7-flattened. I'd prefer a more convincing copy, complete with Aeroglass. I haven't tried it as I have memories of Windowblinds from the days of XP ... it was fragile and flaky. They might have fixed that, but I'm wary. I really dislike that modern OS's decided theming is verboten, and all must wear the party uniform.
jotm 7y ago
Startisback++ iirc. I actually don't have a problem with the UI, since I only use the start menu and the good old file explorer. Feck those UWP apps.
windexh8er 7y ago
Classic Shell is now developed under the name Open-Shell. I was discussing how I debloat non-LTSC instances to a very Microsoft-centric friend and he showed me how Open-Shell is one of the first pieces he installs to take it back to any form of normality. I did inform him he still needs to debloat the spyware/junk and disable telemetry. I've generally found Geek Uninstaller [1] and O&O ShutUp10 [2] work well together to take out the majority. [0] https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu https://github.com/Open-Shell/Open-Shell-Menu [1] https://geekuninstaller.com/ https://geekuninstaller.com/ [2] https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
- klingonopera 7y ago
  All this work... for something I paid for! ...yeah, well, might as well use Linux then, if I'm going to spend the same time configuring both. At least with Linux, I'm fighting a shortage of developers and a lack of official support, and not the OS itself.

jotm 7y ago

Nothing's great about Win10 (7 is just as good, hell even XP would be fine if it was still maintained haha) The software available is great beyond doubt

qwerty456127 7y ago

I use Windows 10 (home edition) at work and have no real problems. There is Win7-like panel, Explorer for files and the command prompt - what else do you need? They have spoiled the configuration dialogs - finding where to tweak something would be hard if I couldn't just Google it, but you just configure it once and forget it. Mysteriously it has also never shown any ads to me although I didn't do anything for this. Windows 10 is not great but it's ok. And I totally love the option to enable keyboard input autocomlpletion (if only I could also enable this on Linux and Mac) - that's amazing when you have to write in foreign languages.