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Maybe if they'd had their white nationalists cleared out by outside influence it would have. That's what it took with Germany, they should thank the Americans f

Maybe if they'd had their white nationalists cleared out by outside influence it would have. That's what it took with Germany, they should thank the Americans for their part in that. Regardless, the foolproof is the enemy of the good. I doubt whataboutery based on whose deeply immoral and harmful behaviour is worse, of all things, is the way to win that argument.

wongarsu 7y ago
>Maybe if they'd had their white nationalists cleared out by outside influence it would have. That's what it took with Germany I don't think "cleared out" is the right word. The war killed indiscriminately, and only 200 or so were sentenced to prison. Removing those people from power, let alone the country, would have left to few competent people to run a government. What happened was showing people why Nazis are bad (I think everyone is thankful for that). > I doubt whataboutery based on whose deeply immoral and harmful behaviour is worse, of all things, is the way to win that argument. You started with "your system is bad because of the one thing that happened 80 years ago". I think "your alternative failed as well and shows no evidence of preventing the thing it's supposed to prevent" is a perfectly valid counter argument.
- brigandish 7y ago
  > You started with "your system is bad because of the one thing that happened 80 years ago" I did? Strange, but those quote marks are around something I've never said or written. > I don't think "cleared out" is the right word. The war killed indiscriminately, and only 200 or so were sentenced to prison. Removing those people from power, let alone the country, would have left to few competent people to run a government. "Cleared out", while being something I have actually written - in this thread even! - is the correct phrase because it's what happend after the war in an initiative termed denazification. 400,000 Germans were interned[1], which is a tad more than 200. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

wongarsu 7y ago

>Maybe if they'd had their white nationalists cleared out by outside influence it would have. That's what it took with Germany I don't think "cleared out" is the right word. The war killed indiscriminately, and only 200 or so were sentenced to prison. Removing those people from power, let alone the country, would have left to few competent people to run a government. What happened was showing people why Nazis are bad (I think everyone is thankful for that). > I doubt whataboutery based on whose deeply immoral and harmful behaviour is worse, of all things, is the way to win that argument. You started with "your system is bad because of the one thing that happened 80 years ago". I think "your alternative failed as well and shows no evidence of preventing the thing it's supposed to prevent" is a perfectly valid counter argument.

brigandish 7y ago
> You started with "your system is bad because of the one thing that happened 80 years ago" I did? Strange, but those quote marks are around something I've never said or written. > I don't think "cleared out" is the right word. The war killed indiscriminately, and only 200 or so were sentenced to prison. Removing those people from power, let alone the country, would have left to few competent people to run a government. "Cleared out", while being something I have actually written - in this thread even! - is the correct phrase because it's what happend after the war in an initiative termed denazification. 400,000 Germans were interned[1], which is a tad more than 200. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification