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Florida is likely in for a double-whammy with climate change compounding with the Silver Tsunami. I wouldn't want to own property in Florida in the long term.
by cletus 7y ago
Florida is likely in for a double-whammy with climate change compounding with the Silver Tsunami.
I wouldn't want to own property in Florida in the long term.
- hprotagonist 7y agoor the short term, if i’m honest.
- Analemma_ 7y agoI keep saying that once rise to the point where the problem is undeniable, Floridians will demand— and probably get— a colossal bailout on the taxpayers’ dime for their property, either in the form of some megaengineering project to hold back the ocean or just forcing the government to buy their homes, because Florida is a swing state with a large number of crucial electoral votes and neither major party can blow them off.
- ohazi 7y agoIt's literally not possible to hold back the ocean in Florida. The bedrock is porous.
- Analemma_ 7y agoYes, but that doesn’t mean we’re not going to spend billions of dollars trying. Voters don’t like to be told “there’s no fix”; they’ll gravitate toward any politician who promises to preserve their property values, especially with other people’s money.
- ohazi 7y agosigh You're not wrong...
- crisdux 7y agoThey basically already get that. All coastal communities and flood prone areas do. In the form of the National Flood Insurance Program. NFIP is massively subsidized flood insurance and does not charge nearly enough to cover the costs of liabilities. We've basically been rebuilding structures with taxpayer funding in flood prone areas ever since the NFIP started. Climate change has nothing to do with this bad policy.
- Spooky23 7y agoThe sunbelt is a weird place as there are a lot of businesses there now, but many areas are dependent on tourism and retirement real estate. I don’t know a lot about Florida, but I usually go to Hilton Head, SC every couple of years. The last trips there have been noticeable issues reported and evident about the lack of workers — you have bazillions of old people from somewhere else, but anyone who is working there cannot afford it.
- AnthonyMouse 7y agoIt would be interesting to put some work into changing that. For example, national popular vote is basically a dead letter because you'd need support from states whose majority party benefits from the status quo (e.g. Texas), which you thereby can't get. But suppose you throw them a bone and give them something like national popular vote weighted by electoral college delegates. Now you can get them on board because the change doesn't result in electoral math less favorable to their preferred political party, but it still removes swing states like Florida from their privileged position, to the benefit of the people of Texas, California and everywhere else who suddenly need to be paid attention to by both parties again.
- roenxi 7y agoSo instead of the swing vote being in Florida the swing vote is somewhere else. Nobody is talking about designing a system without a marginal voter who determines the outcome. I don't think such a system is even a candidate in discussions. It is a lot of mucking around for essentially no improvement; an argument that a swing voter living at address A is going to be better than a swing voter living at address B is suspect. You're still going to have a situation where ~50% of the voters will still be getting an outcome they didn't want.
- asdfasgasdgasdg 7y agoNational popular vote is exactly such a system, and it is being discussed although I think practical people realize this is unlikely to change.
- phlakaton 7y agoI was going to say, a title just as apt would be: "Which Areas Will Be Flooded Once Boomers Start Leaving Them?"