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Every time you buy media legally, you fund these kinds of laws. Not only are media conglomerates not our friends, they are openly hostile to the rights the grow

by deogeo 7y ago

Every time you buy media legally, you fund these kinds of laws. Not only are media conglomerates not our friends, they are openly hostile to the rights the growing IP laws have not yet robbed us of.

ohithereyou 7y ago
Hear hear! They call you a consumer because your job is to shut up and buy the shit they shovel out and keep a grin on your face as you buy buy buy.
briandear 7y ago
Every time you steal media, you defund the creators.
- deleted 7y ago
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- jMyles 7y ago
  I don't need this particular ideological defense. I will be able to create better content, and do it more easily, with fewer restrictions.
- virmundi 7y ago
  Perhaps they should be defunded. A period of darkness in the arts might reset it to being innovative and independent.
- sgc 7y ago
  When many people copy media (not take it away from someone), they do it because it is not worth 100x-1000x the amount the creator receives to them. Many, if not most or virtually all those people would be willing to pay a more reasonable price without the draconian war enacted by "publishers", who now, in the age of the internet, bring little more than a gate rather than actual distribution. It is certainly more complex than "pay any price, accept any consequence, or you are evil". A strong correlate to this is the fact that many content creators, despite entering into agreements with publishing houses, really could not care less about piracy. The modern history of piracy, legislative creep, and enforcement has been a battle between consumers and publishers, not artists.
- arpa 7y ago
  Cry me a river.
s1k3b8 7y ago
Not sure why you are being downvoted. The biggest backers of the ridiculous copyright and IP laws are media companies - Disney, News Corp, etc being the most egregious examples. And these companies are only getting bigger as they consolidate and merge and it gives them even greater power and leverage within governments around the world. These media conglomerates are some of the largest ad sellers and buyers and have too much influence over everything. There is so much talk about how bad and powerful social media companies are. Disney, News Corp, etc are even more powerful and in my opinion, more destructive to human beings, than social media. It's time to break up, not just the biggest social media companies, but all major media conglomerates. Lets get some diversity in the media space - social and traditional.
rs23296008n1 7y ago
Three things come to mind : Most of the Disney stories are actually based on public domain works. Snow White is an obvious example from the Grimm stories but is even older than their collection. You'd definitely want a legal team's support if you were to release a Snow White story these days. This is an indicator of how far corporations have proceeded in "owning" the public domain. Companies like to feed from the public domain but not so much the other way. No surprise there. Mickey Mouse would likely be public domain soon or already if not for constant intervention from Disney to move the date each time it gets even remotely nearby. All that said, I'm not sure illegal downloads are the answer. Heavy political pressure / people power is more likely beneficial. Reining in copyright laws in general is still something on the overall worlds "todo" list but there are a few other issues with higher priority. General awareness of how copyright/IP laws and agreements impact cost of medicines and health might be part of the way forward.
- matheusmoreira 7y ago
  > Companies like to feed from the public domain but not so much the other way. > Mickey Mouse would likely be public domain soon or already if not for constant intervention from Disney to move the date each time it gets even remotely nearby. Yeah. They're probably going to try and extend copyright duration once more in the 2020s. It's infuriating. The social contract behind copyright was "we'll pretend you have exclusive access to your work for some time so that you can make your money and when the time is up the work will belong to public". Copyright holders obviously have no intention to fulfill their part of the contract: they employ lobbyists to extend copyright duration to infinity, weaken fair use by mandating automated and indiscriminate blocking and generally erode the rights and freedoms of citizens. So why should people recognize copyright as legitimate? It's a phony, artificial concept that should be abolished before the billion dollar copyright industry abuses it any further. People who infringe copyright are guilty of nothing but civil disobedience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience
fierarul 7y ago
Often the media is free. But have you looked at the prices for toys?

by deogeo 7y ago

Every time you buy media legally, you fund these kinds of laws. Not only are media conglomerates not our friends, they are openly hostile to the rights the growing IP laws have not yet robbed us of.

ohithereyou 7y ago

Hear hear! They call you a consumer because your job is to shut up and buy the shit they shovel out and keep a grin on your face as you buy buy buy.

briandear 7y ago

Every time you steal media, you defund the creators.

deleted 7y ago
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jMyles 7y ago
I don't need this particular ideological defense. I will be able to create better content, and do it more easily, with fewer restrictions.
virmundi 7y ago
Perhaps they should be defunded. A period of darkness in the arts might reset it to being innovative and independent.
sgc 7y ago
When many people copy media (not take it away from someone), they do it because it is not worth 100x-1000x the amount the creator receives to them. Many, if not most or virtually all those people would be willing to pay a more reasonable price without the draconian war enacted by "publishers", who now, in the age of the internet, bring little more than a gate rather than actual distribution. It is certainly more complex than "pay any price, accept any consequence, or you are evil". A strong correlate to this is the fact that many content creators, despite entering into agreements with publishing houses, really could not care less about piracy. The modern history of piracy, legislative creep, and enforcement has been a battle between consumers and publishers, not artists.
arpa 7y ago
Cry me a river.

s1k3b8 7y ago

Not sure why you are being downvoted. The biggest backers of the ridiculous copyright and IP laws are media companies - Disney, News Corp, etc being the most egregious examples. And these companies are only getting bigger as they consolidate and merge and it gives them even greater power and leverage within governments around the world. These media conglomerates are some of the largest ad sellers and buyers and have too much influence over everything. There is so much talk about how bad and powerful social media companies are. Disney, News Corp, etc are even more powerful and in my opinion, more destructive to human beings, than social media. It's time to break up, not just the biggest social media companies, but all major media conglomerates. Lets get some diversity in the media space - social and traditional.

rs23296008n1 7y ago

Three things come to mind : Most of the Disney stories are actually based on public domain works. Snow White is an obvious example from the Grimm stories but is even older than their collection. You'd definitely want a legal team's support if you were to release a Snow White story these days. This is an indicator of how far corporations have proceeded in "owning" the public domain. Companies like to feed from the public domain but not so much the other way. No surprise there. Mickey Mouse would likely be public domain soon or already if not for constant intervention from Disney to move the date each time it gets even remotely nearby. All that said, I'm not sure illegal downloads are the answer. Heavy political pressure / people power is more likely beneficial. Reining in copyright laws in general is still something on the overall worlds "todo" list but there are a few other issues with higher priority. General awareness of how copyright/IP laws and agreements impact cost of medicines and health might be part of the way forward.

matheusmoreira 7y ago
> Companies like to feed from the public domain but not so much the other way. > Mickey Mouse would likely be public domain soon or already if not for constant intervention from Disney to move the date each time it gets even remotely nearby. Yeah. They're probably going to try and extend copyright duration once more in the 2020s. It's infuriating. The social contract behind copyright was "we'll pretend you have exclusive access to your work for some time so that you can make your money and when the time is up the work will belong to public". Copyright holders obviously have no intention to fulfill their part of the contract: they employ lobbyists to extend copyright duration to infinity, weaken fair use by mandating automated and indiscriminate blocking and generally erode the rights and freedoms of citizens. So why should people recognize copyright as legitimate? It's a phony, artificial concept that should be abolished before the billion dollar copyright industry abuses it any further. People who infringe copyright are guilty of nothing but civil disobedience. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience

fierarul 7y ago

Often the media is free. But have you looked at the prices for toys?