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Man, why does a simple blog need so much JavaScript? (Sorry, I know this is not the most productive of comments, but I am genuinely curious to know. Also, if no

Man, why does a simple blog need so much JavaScript? (Sorry, I know this is not the most productive of comments, but I am genuinely curious to know. Also, if not me, someone else is inevitably going to say it, I suspect).

kgraves 7y ago
Maybe all the author cares about is writing and content? I don't think this is an issue at all for the majority of people. Remember that you (and people visit/comment on articles on this orange site) are the 0.01% of people in the world that care about JavaScript being an issue.
- savanaly 7y ago
  Yes, really. Browsing HN comments feels like I'm good friends with a generally friendly elderly construction worker who for some reason has a real stick in his ass about grouting. Everywhere we go together, houses, bars, museums, whatever, he never stops complaining about the grouting, pointing out places here and there where "that's not gonna hold up in twenty years" and "that poor grouting is why we get the occasional gust of cold air in here" etc etc. And while I appreciate he knows what he's talking about and yes maybe we would all be better if builders the world over got their act together and did the grouting better, I just wish for once he wouldn't bring the damn subject up and talk about something else, something more interesting, something new when we visit a place.
- larnmar 7y ago
  Why doesn’t he just serve some nice plain text then?
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- Nasrudith 7y ago
  That brings to mind Bonzi Buddy proving people literally would take a dancing monkey over security. People generally may not understand enough to know JavaScript as a culprit but they do notice bloat and complain about the slowness. I find difficult to think of metaphors which encapsulate a sense of proportion to the issue but ignoring a root cause as not an issue is a very good way to wind up with one.
Mathnerd314 7y ago
It's using some mixture of Wordpress, React "styled components", Core.js, and other libraries. WP is the backend and returns the post as JSON so the JS is needed to turn it into HTML. It's poor website design, but JS is turning into the new Flash. People want glitzy websites and don't care about load times.
Waterluvian 7y ago
Didn't even notice and I'm on a very low budget phone. The content was interesting though. Im not sure I am persuaded that "moving to Africa" is a worthy point to lean so hard on. Maybe focus on him being a part-time CEO.
- giarc 7y ago
  Perhaps Scott didn't focus on that (although he brings it up a number of times) simply because the board is obvious ok with that. I think he captures it in the title though... "Enough Already". It's like saying "Ok you let him be a part time CEO, but moving to Africa is too much."
  - Waterluvian 7y ago
    That's a good point. Thanks.
paulcole 7y ago
Similar question is that why does it matter how much JavaScript there is?
- TurkishPoptart 7y ago
  It doesn't, but I was curious to know why it was used/necessary, and I received the answers I was looking for.

kgraves 7y ago

Maybe all the author cares about is writing and content? I don't think this is an issue at all for the majority of people. Remember that you (and people visit/comment on articles on this orange site) are the 0.01% of people in the world that care about JavaScript being an issue.

savanaly 7y ago
Yes, really. Browsing HN comments feels like I'm good friends with a generally friendly elderly construction worker who for some reason has a real stick in his ass about grouting. Everywhere we go together, houses, bars, museums, whatever, he never stops complaining about the grouting, pointing out places here and there where "that's not gonna hold up in twenty years" and "that poor grouting is why we get the occasional gust of cold air in here" etc etc. And while I appreciate he knows what he's talking about and yes maybe we would all be better if builders the world over got their act together and did the grouting better, I just wish for once he wouldn't bring the damn subject up and talk about something else, something more interesting, something new when we visit a place.
larnmar 7y ago
Why doesn’t he just serve some nice plain text then?
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Nasrudith 7y ago
That brings to mind Bonzi Buddy proving people literally would take a dancing monkey over security. People generally may not understand enough to know JavaScript as a culprit but they do notice bloat and complain about the slowness. I find difficult to think of metaphors which encapsulate a sense of proportion to the issue but ignoring a root cause as not an issue is a very good way to wind up with one.

Mathnerd314 7y ago

It's using some mixture of Wordpress, React "styled components", Core.js, and other libraries. WP is the backend and returns the post as JSON so the JS is needed to turn it into HTML. It's poor website design, but JS is turning into the new Flash. People want glitzy websites and don't care about load times.

Waterluvian 7y ago

Didn't even notice and I'm on a very low budget phone. The content was interesting though. Im not sure I am persuaded that "moving to Africa" is a worthy point to lean so hard on. Maybe focus on him being a part-time CEO.

giarc 7y ago
Perhaps Scott didn't focus on that (although he brings it up a number of times) simply because the board is obvious ok with that. I think he captures it in the title though... "Enough Already". It's like saying "Ok you let him be a part time CEO, but moving to Africa is too much."
- Waterluvian 7y ago
  That's a good point. Thanks.

paulcole 7y ago

Similar question is that why does it matter how much JavaScript there is?

TurkishPoptart 7y ago
It doesn't, but I was curious to know why it was used/necessary, and I received the answers I was looking for.