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How often do people notice domains? I've seen many users use Google or similar to find their desired site such as facebook without typing the URL. If it were on

by e2le 7y ago

How often do people notice domains? I've seen many users use Google or similar to find their desired site such as facebook without typing the URL. If it were only an IPv6 address, would people even care?

bad_user 7y ago
I notice domains. And I don't trust domains that don't end in .com, .org or a recognizable national TLD. Besides, the point is irrelevant. When you build an online brand, you build it by having links distributed on the web, to get the Google juice going, on social media, on forums, etc. Even in business emails you add your domain there for easy reference later. Then if you have to change the domain, all of those links will be broken. As they say... Cool URIs don't change ;-) https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html
- e2le 7y ago
  Perhaps it was incorrect of me to claim that users don't notice domains. I suppose the issue I was getting at was users don't appear to memorize the domain and instead use Google or similar for finding the site they are looking for.
  - emn13 7y ago
    But how does google find those domains? Link juice still matters, and those links work via... domains.
    - e2le 7y ago
      Those links work with domains or addresses no matter if it's https://yourdomain.com/ https://yourdomain.com/ or https://[2001::1]/ https://[2001::1]/. Google finds those domains through a variety of means (social media, collecting other domains from the sites they index, manually submitted domains, etc). Google also indexes addresses.
      - emn13 7y ago
        But links aren't alive; so if somebody once linked to something you wrote/own/built/whatever on some domain, you can't magically transfer that link to your new site if the domain name system decides to jack up prices until you consider moving. And you're similarly not likely to own an ip address forever, not to mention that if you have any doubts about the userfriendliness of domains, you don't need to wonder about ip-addresses. Ip addresses are worse on all fronts; leaving you back to square one: the DNS gatekeepers own your domain and merely let you use it. Just pray they don't change the terms of that deal.
- jl6 7y ago
  The sale of .org brings us one step closer to the web apocalypse where that URI is forced to change.
  - bad_user 7y ago
    Well, shit happens, but I don't believe in apocalypses. I just renewed and I've got another 10 years. Things will be sorted out by then.
- mavhc 7y ago
  But we created a system where every x years you're forced to pay whatever the owner of the tld says you must, basically you're being held hostage and can never be freed.
rocqua 7y ago
Domains matter in email addresses. Domains matter in links. Domains matter because they name a thing. This allows us to create an expectation. This is also what certificates are based around. They certify that "The server you are talking to really has this name". This is important because names have meanings to people.

by e2le 7y ago

bad_user 7y ago

I notice domains. And I don't trust domains that don't end in .com, .org or a recognizable national TLD. Besides, the point is irrelevant. When you build an online brand, you build it by having links distributed on the web, to get the Google juice going, on social media, on forums, etc. Even in business emails you add your domain there for easy reference later. Then if you have to change the domain, all of those links will be broken. As they say... Cool URIs don't change ;-) https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html https://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html

e2le 7y ago
Perhaps it was incorrect of me to claim that users don't notice domains. I suppose the issue I was getting at was users don't appear to memorize the domain and instead use Google or similar for finding the site they are looking for.
- emn13 7y ago
  But how does google find those domains? Link juice still matters, and those links work via... domains.
  - e2le 7y ago
    Those links work with domains or addresses no matter if it's https://yourdomain.com/ https://yourdomain.com/ or https://[2001::1]/ https://[2001::1]/. Google finds those domains through a variety of means (social media, collecting other domains from the sites they index, manually submitted domains, etc). Google also indexes addresses.
    - emn13 7y ago
      But links aren't alive; so if somebody once linked to something you wrote/own/built/whatever on some domain, you can't magically transfer that link to your new site if the domain name system decides to jack up prices until you consider moving. And you're similarly not likely to own an ip address forever, not to mention that if you have any doubts about the userfriendliness of domains, you don't need to wonder about ip-addresses. Ip addresses are worse on all fronts; leaving you back to square one: the DNS gatekeepers own your domain and merely let you use it. Just pray they don't change the terms of that deal.
jl6 7y ago
The sale of .org brings us one step closer to the web apocalypse where that URI is forced to change.
- bad_user 7y ago
  Well, shit happens, but I don't believe in apocalypses. I just renewed and I've got another 10 years. Things will be sorted out by then.
mavhc 7y ago
But we created a system where every x years you're forced to pay whatever the owner of the tld says you must, basically you're being held hostage and can never be freed.

rocqua 7y ago

Domains matter in email addresses. Domains matter in links. Domains matter because they name a thing. This allows us to create an expectation. This is also what certificates are based around. They certify that "The server you are talking to really has this name". This is important because names have meanings to people.