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Your first link is misleading, as it just indicates that part of the US is using cable where most european countries use DSL + fiber. > How many of them would

Your first link is misleading, as it just indicates that part of the US is using cable where most european countries use DSL + fiber. > How many of them would rank in the top 10-15 in the world? Anything would be better than Comcast, seriously.

rayiner 7y ago
It’s not misleading. The US broadly adopted cable because the market was mostly deregulated. Europe tends to lag on these measures because it’s more top-down regulated markets tried to evolve the existing phone network with DSL. So the few places that have fiber have great speeds, while everyone else is stuck with DSL. The US has an entire additional infrastructure that offers much faster speeds than DSL. Countries like France and Spain are now rolling out fiber, but the US has enjoyed a huge advantage in speeds for most of the 21st century because of cable.
- hocuspocus 7y ago
  You realize you cannot make such broad generalizations about Europe? Cable internet has been available and very popular in several countries. And DSL doesn't have to suck, G.fast offers speeds above 500Mbps. Also FTTH rollout has started long ago in most countries. Even in rural areas the coverage is typically pretty good when horizontal deployment is done by municipalities or local utilities. And you see the exact same thing in the US.
  - rayiner 7y ago
    You can make generalizations about Europe. Most of the EU population lives in just five countries: the UK, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy. The US has faster internet than all of them, although Spain is pulling ahead in a couple of recent surveys.
- lotsofpulp 7y ago
  > The US has an entire additional infrastructure that offers much faster speeds than DSL. Maybe download speeds, and even then, probably subject to a temporary boost while the ISPs slows down other people in the neighborhood. The fact that no upload speeds are ever advertised means to me that the ISP hasn’t made any hardware or capacity improvements or, they’re just reallocating what they already have. Either way, who cares what other countries have and don’t have. It’s pitiful what the “greatest” country on earth can’t manage to offer due to monopolies having a disincentive to offer it, since they also sell TV and phone service, which they would lose revenue from if people had decent internet connections.

rayiner 7y ago

It’s not misleading. The US broadly adopted cable because the market was mostly deregulated. Europe tends to lag on these measures because it’s more top-down regulated markets tried to evolve the existing phone network with DSL. So the few places that have fiber have great speeds, while everyone else is stuck with DSL. The US has an entire additional infrastructure that offers much faster speeds than DSL. Countries like France and Spain are now rolling out fiber, but the US has enjoyed a huge advantage in speeds for most of the 21st century because of cable.

hocuspocus 7y ago
You realize you cannot make such broad generalizations about Europe? Cable internet has been available and very popular in several countries. And DSL doesn't have to suck, G.fast offers speeds above 500Mbps. Also FTTH rollout has started long ago in most countries. Even in rural areas the coverage is typically pretty good when horizontal deployment is done by municipalities or local utilities. And you see the exact same thing in the US.
- rayiner 7y ago
  You can make generalizations about Europe. Most of the EU population lives in just five countries: the UK, France, Germany, Spain, and Italy. The US has faster internet than all of them, although Spain is pulling ahead in a couple of recent surveys.
lotsofpulp 7y ago
> The US has an entire additional infrastructure that offers much faster speeds than DSL. Maybe download speeds, and even then, probably subject to a temporary boost while the ISPs slows down other people in the neighborhood. The fact that no upload speeds are ever advertised means to me that the ISP hasn’t made any hardware or capacity improvements or, they’re just reallocating what they already have. Either way, who cares what other countries have and don’t have. It’s pitiful what the “greatest” country on earth can’t manage to offer due to monopolies having a disincentive to offer it, since they also sell TV and phone service, which they would lose revenue from if people had decent internet connections.