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Every hd i ever had and didnt use anymore, i smash a 2 inch nail through it. Thats permanent.

bobthepanda 7y ago
They said they rented the disks, so that probably wasn’t possible. Renting physical hard drives does seem pretty dumb, though.
- tpmx 7y ago
  http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201912060021.html http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201912060021.html The hard drives had been used for data sharing servers at the prefectural government office and were replaced with new ones in the spring. The prefectural government had deleted the data, but the successful bidder of the hard drives was able to restore them by using special software. The government is trying to locate the remaining nine hard drives, which were also sold online in July to August. The data servers had been leased from Fujitsu Leasing Co., which commissioned Broadlink Co. to scrap the replaced hard drives.
  - bobthepanda 7y ago
    There’s deletion, and then there’s deletion. Zero-filling, one-filling, and random-filling all the bits of a hard drive is sufficient to make previous data effectively unretrievable. That doesn’t sound like what happened here. https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/13674/is-it-possible-to-recover-data-on-a-zeroed-hard-drive https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/13674/is-it-pos...
  - raverbashing 7y ago
    "deleted" I would bet a lot of money they dragged the files to the "recycle bin" then maybe emptied it If they were external drives it's likely they were on FAT32 which makes it even easier
- mysterydip 7y ago
  Something to keep in mind when buying datacenter infrastructure is that "next day onsite support" might want to take the failed drive back with them in exchange for the new working one. I know Dell at least has a "keep your hard drive" option for an extra fee.
- avar 7y ago
  "Renting" hardware that you "own" is relatively normal. E.g. buy a 1U server with everything from a <provider>, pay some subscription fee so they keep upgrading it to the latest thing. It's a way to shift inventory management to the supplier, the alternative would be to employ people to try to sell used 1U servers & components. Those companies will then pick up your used server, wipe it, and sell it to someone else. Depending on the contract that'll include physically intact hard drives.
gjs278 7y ago
writing all zero to the drive does the same thing

They said they rented the disks, so that probably wasn’t possible. Renting physical hard drives does seem pretty dumb, though.

tpmx 7y ago
http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201912060021.html http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201912060021.html The hard drives had been used for data sharing servers at the prefectural government office and were replaced with new ones in the spring. The prefectural government had deleted the data, but the successful bidder of the hard drives was able to restore them by using special software. The government is trying to locate the remaining nine hard drives, which were also sold online in July to August. The data servers had been leased from Fujitsu Leasing Co., which commissioned Broadlink Co. to scrap the replaced hard drives.
- bobthepanda 7y ago
  There’s deletion, and then there’s deletion. Zero-filling, one-filling, and random-filling all the bits of a hard drive is sufficient to make previous data effectively unretrievable. That doesn’t sound like what happened here. https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/13674/is-it-possible-to-recover-data-on-a-zeroed-hard-drive https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/13674/is-it-pos...
- raverbashing 7y ago
  "deleted" I would bet a lot of money they dragged the files to the "recycle bin" then maybe emptied it If they were external drives it's likely they were on FAT32 which makes it even easier
mysterydip 7y ago
Something to keep in mind when buying datacenter infrastructure is that "next day onsite support" might want to take the failed drive back with them in exchange for the new working one. I know Dell at least has a "keep your hard drive" option for an extra fee.
avar 7y ago
"Renting" hardware that you "own" is relatively normal. E.g. buy a 1U server with everything from a <provider>, pay some subscription fee so they keep upgrading it to the latest thing. It's a way to shift inventory management to the supplier, the alternative would be to employ people to try to sell used 1U servers & components. Those companies will then pick up your used server, wipe it, and sell it to someone else. Depending on the contract that'll include physically intact hard drives.

gjs278 7y ago

writing all zero to the drive does the same thing