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> I initially thought that the emotional motivation was independence. More like autonomy: apparently Hong Kong citizens don't mind being part of China as long

> I initially thought that the emotional motivation was independence. More like autonomy: apparently Hong Kong citizens don't mind being part of China as long as they can keep their self-governance. And that ties in to your question: > Does China have anything to loose with an independent inquiry into police violence ? Such an inquiry would emphasize HK's autonomy (and also paint government as potentially fallible, something the party doesn't like to see discussed). On the other hand: does China have anything to win with such an inquiry? I can't see anything (there are four more demands and giving in on this would likely increase support for demanding the rest), so for them it's all risk and no gain.

jandrese 7y ago
> More like autonomy: apparently Hong Kong citizens don't mind being part of China as long as they can keep their self-governance. So they don't mind being a part of China so long as they aren't actually a part of China. I can't blame them either, the current system has worked out well for the island, and China's internal polices have not had quite as much success on the mainland. But Chinese officials were pretty clear from the start that they intended to integrated HK eventually and that the semi-detached existence was only temporary. They see this as inevitable and the HL population is just dragging their heels on something that has to happen in the end.
- nailer 7y ago
  I think some folk in the west naively assumed that a wealthy populace on the mainland would get tired of corruption and rule by self appointed officials, and eventually liberalise. Harmony would be achieved this way. Instead China is implementing totalitarianism on a first world region and the Cantonese hate it.
  - bllguo 7y ago
    HK is largely cantonese but not all cantonese are from hong kong. let's use accurate language

jandrese 7y ago

> More like autonomy: apparently Hong Kong citizens don't mind being part of China as long as they can keep their self-governance. So they don't mind being a part of China so long as they aren't actually a part of China. I can't blame them either, the current system has worked out well for the island, and China's internal polices have not had quite as much success on the mainland. But Chinese officials were pretty clear from the start that they intended to integrated HK eventually and that the semi-detached existence was only temporary. They see this as inevitable and the HL population is just dragging their heels on something that has to happen in the end.

nailer 7y ago
I think some folk in the west naively assumed that a wealthy populace on the mainland would get tired of corruption and rule by self appointed officials, and eventually liberalise. Harmony would be achieved this way. Instead China is implementing totalitarianism on a first world region and the Cantonese hate it.
- bllguo 7y ago
  HK is largely cantonese but not all cantonese are from hong kong. let's use accurate language