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> She says she plans to work for as long as possible, trying to provide for her baby. As part time employees, we don’t get health insurance or paid sick days.

> She says she plans to work for as long as possible, trying to provide for her baby. As part time employees, we don’t get health insurance or paid sick days. And the cycle repeats. I know it's a cold, impersonal take, but when life sucks, having a child is going to make it worse and most likely just lead to a new generation of suffering. As much as a $15 minimum wage might help, even at $12 in Colorado, McDonald's already has touchscreen machines you can order from instead of at the counter - which might already not be manned all the time (it seems that now they often have a single person taking orders at the front counter and the drive through). So I'm skeptical if $15 minimum wage would work. It might work for the hospital job, at least the margin's there are higher and they are less able to automate the job away.

SolaceQuantum 7y ago
" I know it's a cold, impersonal take, but when life sucks, having a child is going to make it worse and most likely just lead to a new generation of suffering." She could've had the child when her economics were in a better place. She could've been assaulted. She could've been denied the education to prevent the pregnancy. There are a bajillion and one reasons why a child might exist and she is responsible for it.
- KingMachiavelli 7y ago
  > She could've had the child when her economics were in a better place. She could've been assaulted. She could've been denied the education to prevent the pregnancy It's possible but not probable when you consider that 42.3% of births are paid for via Medicaid [1]. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_13-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_13-508.pdf
  - SolaceQuantum 7y ago
    Medicaid is also the largest insurance provider in the USA, so it makes sense they have a lot of births. Doesn't explain much.
  - mulmen 7y ago
    Surely you need data on the rate of assault and lost economic security to make this assertion.
crispyambulance 7y ago
> I know it's a cold, impersonal take, but when life sucks, having a child is going to make it worse and most likely just lead to a new generation of suffering. This is very much a class thing. Well-educated middle class and higher simply can't comprehend why a single mother or even married couple would even think about having children when they can't provide the basics, let alone a solid education in good schools that aren't feeders for prison. The folks who make that decision do so because they see it as a part of life and don't see any change in their circumstances for the foreseeable future. No light at the end of the tunnel, so just get on with living.

SolaceQuantum 7y ago

" I know it's a cold, impersonal take, but when life sucks, having a child is going to make it worse and most likely just lead to a new generation of suffering." She could've had the child when her economics were in a better place. She could've been assaulted. She could've been denied the education to prevent the pregnancy. There are a bajillion and one reasons why a child might exist and she is responsible for it.

KingMachiavelli 7y ago
> She could've had the child when her economics were in a better place. She could've been assaulted. She could've been denied the education to prevent the pregnancy It's possible but not probable when you consider that 42.3% of births are paid for via Medicaid [1]. [1] https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_13-508.pdf https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_13-508.pdf
- SolaceQuantum 7y ago
  Medicaid is also the largest insurance provider in the USA, so it makes sense they have a lot of births. Doesn't explain much.
- mulmen 7y ago
  Surely you need data on the rate of assault and lost economic security to make this assertion.

crispyambulance 7y ago

> I know it's a cold, impersonal take, but when life sucks, having a child is going to make it worse and most likely just lead to a new generation of suffering. This is very much a class thing. Well-educated middle class and higher simply can't comprehend why a single mother or even married couple would even think about having children when they can't provide the basics, let alone a solid education in good schools that aren't feeders for prison. The folks who make that decision do so because they see it as a part of life and don't see any change in their circumstances for the foreseeable future. No light at the end of the tunnel, so just get on with living.